***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Don't be a candyass. Be smart and you'll be fine.

55k have died in this country in a little more than a month. 647k die a year from heart disease. If my math is right that's about the same monthly average. We arent taking this seriously enough.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by wazu

Clay County is not.

*the parts that house KCMO in Clay County are locked down until the 15th, but not NKC, Gladstone, and the rest you mentioned. That's going to give a real up close look at the differences in philosophies dealing with this.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

55k have died in this country in a little more than a month. 647k die a year from heart disease. If my math is right that's about the same monthly average. We arent taking this seriously enough.

Very debatable on how seriously we're taking this, especially with all the new info starting to pour in.

But my point stands - be smart and you should be fine.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

55k have died in this country in a little more than a month. 647k die a year from heart disease. If my math is right that's about the same monthly average. We arent taking this seriously enough.

There's basically zero chance it will continue at that pace for the entire year.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by DaFace

There's basically zero chance it will continue at that pace for the entire year.

So basically 55-155K per month?

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by DaFace

There's basically zero chance it will continue at that pace for the entire year.

Really makes you wonder when this thing first legitimately hit our shores.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Very debatable on how seriously we're taking this, especially with all the new info starting to pour in.

But my point stands - be smart and you should be fine.

I try to. I've been washing my hands regularly and wearing a mask when I go to the store .

[lewdog]

What's our capacity to roll out antibody tests? And at one point in this timeline would it be useful to roll out such testing for many citizens in this country?

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by DaFace

There's basically zero chance it will continue at that pace for the entire year.

I think the original model without any restrictions in place was 500k. It's just interesting that in a months time we lost about the same number of people to COVID as we did heart disease.

I dont mean to come across as fear mongering because I dont view it that way I respect the virus. I dont think alot of people do and that's going to end up biting us in the ass.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by lewdog

What's our capacity to roll out antibody tests? And at one point in this timeline would it be useful to roll out such testing for many citizens in this country?

Someone a couple of days back linked a story saying LabCorp had come up with an at home test, but they were rolling it out for first responders and essential employees to begin, iirc. Also iirc, they said the test could be bought for $120?

[dirk digler]

Here is the MO order for retail and restaurants.

Retail businesses shall limit the number of individuals in any particular location. Consult the Health Order and FAQs for additional details.

Restaurants may offer dining-in services, but must adhere to social distancing and other precautionary public health measures. Tables must be spaced at least six feet apart. Communal seating areas for parties that are not connected are prohibited. There can be no more than ten people at a single table. The continued use of drive-thru, pickup, or delivery options is encouraged.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Here is the MO order for retail and restaurants.

A lot better than Texas where they are ordered to limit to 25% of capacity.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by wazu

A lot better than Texas where they are ordered to limit to 25% of capacity.

Here is the actual order

https://health.mo.gov/living/healthc...ening-faqs.pdf

Are there restrictions on businesses?Yes.

Workplaces that are engaged in retail sales to the public must limit the number of customers in each retail location to the following standards based on the workplace’s fire or building code occupancy:

•For smaller locations (less than 10,000 square feet), they must maintain 25 percent or less of the authorized occupancy;

•For larger locations (10,000 square feet or greater), they must maintain 10 percent or less of the authorized occupancy.


Employees at the workplace and vendors delivering products into the store are not included in this calculation and do not count toward occupancy limitations.

[dirk digler]

O.City sounds like you can go back to work.

Does this order prevent me from receiving non-emergency healthcare, such as a routine eye exam or dental care?

Medical providers, such as dentists and optometrists, may provide usual services at their discretion. The social distancing requirements do not apply to individuals performing job duties that require contact with other people closer than six feet (6’).

Medical providers should develop and implement public health and safety measures for employees and patients, using the above direction as a guide, in addition to any guidance provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Implementing a system where patients can wait inside their vehicles prior to entering the office is strongly encouraged, as are pre-scheduled and spaced out appointments to minimize interaction between people.

[candyman]

I need an Asian rub & tug, hopefully they'll be opened back up Monday as well