***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

However Hamas, Would you agree that this is probably the most accurate count, even if low, in real time, that we have had for a pandemic. The testing dwarfs any other virus/flu in the past.

Here, yes, but a sizable portion of our society is still getting it exactly backwards.

In other countries the death toll is so far behind as to be a damned joke. In Russia nurses are resigning en masse and the ones that speak out are falling out of fifth floor windows.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's through August.

Makes more sense , they might adjust it as states open up.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It looks like they've been low for a few days now, so the pace isn't dropping quite as fast as they'd predicted, but it's not WAY off or anything. I think it's likely we go over their current estimate of 68k, but whether it's 75k or 100k remains to be seen. I bet it'll be closer to the former.

Our descent isn't going to be like China it is going to be like Italy or the rest of the world, slow and long. I bet we hit 100K or close to it. I also would gladly be wrong.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by DaFace

There's basically zero chance it will continue at that pace for the entire year.

We'll see. We have yet to see what this will be like with states in full capacity without social distancing measures.

The good news is that even if they do move forward as business as usual, a large portion of the population is going to be smart enough to stay away from crowds, restaurants, beaches, etc

Also the humidity & heat will help.

We will see I guess. Either way, without a vaccine, I would imagine the fall is going to be hell once again.

[Demonpenz]

is argosy open?

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

is argosy open?

You’d be hard pressed to find a casino open anywhere in America right now.

[dirk digler]

Some good news maybe. You can watch the lecture here. https://youtu.be/xUuLDLY1wMU

Michael Farzan (SARS ACE2 discoverer) Scripps lecture:
HIV is a genius, Flu is an honors student, SARS-COV-2 "flunked Immunology 101."
Exposes key antibody sites - very vulnerable to conventional vaccines. Evolves very slowly because genome so large. Vaccine today works tomorrow

— Peter Suzman (@Biomaven) April 22, 2020

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

You’d be hard pressed to find a casino open anywhere in America right now.

Indian casino?

[PAChiefsGuy]

Large house parties violating Chicago's stay-at-home order during pandemic

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/viral-v...er-2020-04-27/

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by TLO

Indian casino?

i need to check white cloud, but i think argosy should be open soon.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Parsons just opened up and the state and just basically said be smart. Iove it.

We'll see how it goes. Hopefully it goes well and rest of the country can then do the same.

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Our descent isn't going to be like China it is going to be like Italy or the rest of the world, slow and long. I bet we hit 100K or close to it. I also would gladly be wrong.

Yeah because China lied and stopped counting.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by kgrund

Yeah because China lied and stopped counting.

I'm not sure why people continue to get hung up on that. There are a number of other counties you can use as your example that have snuffed this out if the mention of China gets your panties in a bunch.

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I'm not sure why people continue to get hung up on that. There are a number of other counties you can use as your example that have snuffed this out if the mention of China gets your panties in a bunch.

Just do not understand why anyone on this board would use China as a benchmark for anything related to this virus. They act as if the numbers are legit, which we know is far from the truth.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by TLO

Indian casino?

That’s all we have here in AZ and not a single one is open.