Chiefs Go on the record: Who do you want as GM and Head Coach? - Page 17

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-16-2008, 05:38 PM

Time to make some decisions, folks.

No lists, pick ONE GM.

PLEASE make this realistic. A current GM making a lateral move is not realistic.

Also: Pick a HC that you think would be a realistic choice of your GM.

Post bios if you wish.

I'll start:

GM: Eric DeCosta, 37, Director Of College Scouting, Baltimore Ravens.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Peopl...c_DeCosta.aspx

HC: Rex Ryan, 46, Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator, Baltimore Ravens.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Peopl.../Rex_Ryan.aspx

Chiefnj2 · 12-17-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

I interpret that ...

Enough said.

mylittlepony · 12-17-2008, 01:29 PM

GM- Scott Pioli
HC- Spag
OC- Chan Gailey(?)
DC- Sean McDermott

Pioli to draft quality guys. Spag to run the team. Gailey because he knows how to work with a limited offense. And McDermott who comes from the Jim Johnson school and knows Spag and both are big faith guys. Who better to run his D?

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-17-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Enough said.

What did you think he was talking about? Hiring a HC with no management experience to be GM? Brilliant!

kcbubb · 12-17-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

For the people who want to keep Herm... I'd like you to list 5 things he has accomplished during his 3 seasons in KC to justify your desire to keep him on as head coach.

Brandon Flowers
Brandon Albert
Dwayne Bowe
Maurice Leggett
Brandon Carr
J. Charles
Kolby Smith
Jarrad Page
Tyler Thigpen
Glenn Dorsey
Tank Tyler

Development of these young players. people say they want to win a superbowl. You have to develop a good roster to achieve that. The roster is developing.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-17-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

For the people who want to keep Herm... I'd like you to list 5 things he has accomplished during his 3 seasons in KC to justify your desire to keep him on as head coach.

I'm on the small train of people who wants the GM to have the power to choose who he wants, but doesn't think Herm is nearly as bad as people say:

#1 - there has been a LOT of talk especially after the Peterson firing that Herm tried to rebuild a long time ago and was met with resistance every time from Peterson. The Chiefs needed to rebuild and finally did in 2008, and that was largely due to Herm
#2 - For as stubborn as people claim he is, he let Chan Gailey coach and didn't butt in, even if it went against his conservative philosophy
#3 - Even if the Chiefs don't pull off wins, there is no doubt that the team has improved markedly (they are losing close games) and they are easily the most motivated losing team in the NFL
#4 - If the 2008 draft and personnel moves are a sign of what's to come, it's a huge step in the right direction. It was one of the best drafts in team history and we also made a lot of underrated off-draft moves, such as bringing in Bradley, Mike Cox, Maurice Leggett, and even Boiman and Babin have turned out to be surprisingly decent depth pickups.
#5 - He committed to the youth movement and, with the exception of McIntosh, has held true to that promise. He has cut starters in mid-season (i.e. Sams, Novak, Harris), he has changed starters around (i.e. McBride over Boone, Carr over Surtain, Leggett over Brackenridge, Bradley over Darling, Barth over Novak, Tyler over Edwards)

I have said many times that I don't know if Herm is the right coach to take this team to the next level, so I'd have no problem with him leaving after this season. But I have never, ever seen a bigger scapegoat and don't understand why some people can't see any positive. Even if a new head coach were to take over next season, I guarantee that we'll look back five years from now and be glad that Herm had the balls to commit to the rebuild even against a powerful GM who did everything in his power to squash it.

melbar · 12-17-2008, 05:08 PM

I like Polian GM and
Cower HC

Polian is fresh and still has experience and success.

Cower is a good teacher and coach. I think this team needs a guy who can come in and demand respect. They need a firm hand. A young guy who hasnt been there may turn out to be a great guy, but we have a young team and I think they need leadership. I think Herm is too much of a buddy-buddy guy.

ChiefsCountry · 12-17-2008, 05:43 PM

Cowher is going to coach either the Redskins or Panthers maybe the Browns if they give him full control.

**The Bad Guy** · 12-17-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

Brandon Flowers
Brandon Albert
Dwayne Bowe
Maurice Leggett
Brandon Carr
J. Charles
Kolby Smith
Jarrad Page
Tyler Thigpen
Glenn Dorsey
Tank Tyler

Development of these young players. people say they want to win a superbowl. You have to develop a good roster to achieve that. The roster is developing.

So Herm is the only one who can develop these players?

Some of you dumb ****ers should hold a telethon so you can get some free money.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-17-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So Herm is the only one who can develop these players?

Some of you dumb ****ers should hold a telethon so you can get some free money.

ArrowheadHawk · 12-17-2008, 05:49 PM

I don't care who the GM and Head Coach are so long as they turn this scrapheap of a team we have around.

crazycoffey · 12-17-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

God dammit, the stupidity of the "true fan" is beyond ****ing belief!

Holy ****!

holy ****ing shit, the attitude and self rightousness of the pompus know it alls on this site if ****ing beyond belief.

****ing dumb asses!

crazycoffey · 12-17-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

For the people who want to keep Herm... I'd like you to list 5 things he has accomplished during his 3 seasons in KC to justify your desire to keep him on as head coach.

5) the list kcbubb made of the young players he drafted

4) adapted to what we had and let chan run the O

3) committed to a youth movement and got the ball rolling on that movement. BTW - it's the first year of getting it done his way. Let's see if it pans out, sans mega injuries (I hope)

2) he's got that young team, playing with injuries, motivated. Let him keep building on that motivation. Teaching, coaching, learning, improving. Pull the plug and start all over.

1) and this is the best of them all - he helped to get rid of Carl

BTW- I also think the new GM should have his say, let herm go if he sees fit to do so. But I won't be surprised or disappointed if he ended up keeping Herm. edit- I just saw chiefzilla's post....

**SAUTO** · 12-17-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Just a few days ago people were lambasting Clark, saying he didn't care about winning and was cheap. Funny how quickly things change.

"he loves soccer more

) silly people, his BROTHER is the soccer guy, clark has been involved in the football operation for years, and was very respected by other owners BEFORE lamar died

**SAUTO** · 12-17-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Yes, Hunt is looking to replace the general manager, but no, when he rattled off the qualities he's looking for in a new GM, he didn't say anything about looking for someone who has experience as a GM.

youre right on this point, BUT you should also keep in mind that clark also wants someone who is about his own age, AND someone who is from outside the organization

TrickyNicky · 12-17-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mylittlepony

GM- Scott Pioli
HC- Spag
OC- Chan Gailey(?)
DC- Sean McDermott

Pioli to draft quality guys. Spag to run the team. Gailey because he knows how to work with a limited offense. And McDermott who comes from the Jim Johnson school and knows Spag and both are big faith guys. Who better to run his D?

I'm willing to give McDermott the head job, but that'll do as well.

12-16-2008, 05:38 PM
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2051115	Go on the record: Who do you want as GM and Head Coach? Time to make some decisions, folks. No lists, pick ONE GM. PLEASE make this realistic. A current GM making a lateral move is not realistic. Also: Pick a HC that you think would be a realistic choice of your GM. Post bios if you wish. I'll start: GM: Eric DeCosta, 37, Director Of College Scouting, Baltimore Ravens. http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Peopl...c_DeCosta.aspx HC: Rex Ryan, 46, Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator, Baltimore Ravens. http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Peopl.../Rex_Ryan.aspx
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mylittlepony Starter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Casino cash: $10005855	GM- Scott Pioli HC- Spag OC- Chan Gailey(?) DC- Sean McDermott Pioli to draft quality guys. Spag to run the team. Gailey because he knows how to work with a limited offense. And McDermott who comes from the Jim Johnson school and knows Spag and both are big faith guys. Who better to run his D?
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