This one ain't on Cassel

[petegz28]

No protection, no running game, no defese to speak of....

Ironically he was about the only one who came to play

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

nothing this franchise does matters as long as cassel is QB


we're wasting time, just like we have for 30 years, until we draft and develop our own QB...

if you think otherwise you're an aids loving d-bag that deserves to be raped by Gunther's yellow glasses and stupid face....

if you think we need to 'fix the ol' but not the QB position, you are an idiot that deserves to be chopped into tiny pieces by a sword the size of Godzilla..

we have 1 problem: QB

until that problem is solved it is the only problem

This.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Yes and no. Alot of the scrambles could have been avoided, Cassel just has piss poor pocket awareness and downfield vision. Its really frustating to see open receivers that a total scab like Matt Moore could hit that Cassel can't.

Yeah, that is what I saw. He was running his clod hoppers when he didn't really need to, consequently missing wide open receivers.

I swear, one time I hollered to my wife, that Cassel had slipped in his own shit.
I think his suckage may have infected the whole team, as they are tired of taking up the slack for him.
Maybe the Monday night celebrations got a little conceited on Cassel's part.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

This.

Been saying it all season. Sink or Swim mother****er, cuz we ain't winning shit unless you become an Olympic swimmer.

I fear he's more of a dog-paddler. What we need is somebody who can hold his head underwater for 4 and a half minutes.

FAX

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

How often do teams ranked #27 in passing offense have a good quarterback? This is Cassel's third year here, and he has weapons and we are still near the very bottom in the league in our ability to move the ball through the air.

Hopefully this is not lost on Pioli and his ego is not too big to swallow this. This team has the best WR corp it has ever had.

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Hopefully this is not lost on Pioli and his ego is not too big to swallow this. This team has the best WR corp it has ever had.

Yep. I like coach Haley, but for being an offensive guru, our current passing game is complete FAIL. If our air attack doesn't improve a lot by the end of the year, how can this Haley + Cassel marriage go into year 4? I'd much prefer to jettison Cassel, but if not, what's the point in having Haley around? Cassel can't run his offense.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by sportsshrink

It's the HC job to make sure the team does not come in flat against a lesser team. No team is as superior as their record and no team is as bad as their record may show. It's the NFL and every team must bring their A game regardless of who they play if they are to win and evenmoreso now that FA is like musical chairs anymore(parody). We as fans really don't know what went on behind closed doors at practice this past week. Maybe Haley was a fireball all week or maybe he is guilty of the subconscious let down as well.

When allllllllllllllll facets of the game suck that usually indicates everyone was flat including the coaches.

Haley said on the pregame show that they didn't even tackle in practice this week since they were beaten up and mentally drained from Monday night. I think this was the wrong approach.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Meh.

I Don't care to read through 16 Pages of Cassel Bashing. Already read through 3 years of it and joined in myself.

All i know is, had the line actually protected Cassel early in the game, he wouldn't have shit himself. He probably would've shredded them up pretty well considering our WR's are in beast mode right now. All 3 of them.

This game was on the O-line. Not that Cassel helped the matter.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=155

[BossChief]

Matt Cassel brought it upon himself.

If we had a quarterback that stayed poised under pressure (well, we do but he isnt allowed to play because of checkdowns contract and connection to Piolis ego) and found the open man, the opposing defense would be forced to drop everybody back into coverage to compensate or at least bring less on the blitz...instead defenses know that if they blitz Cassel he stops making reads and panics.

Until Cassel learns to beat the blitz, the blitz will continue to tear his game apart at the seams.

****, we have a huge size advantage over almost any corner in the league...how about when the opposing team blitzes, just throw it up to Bowe or Baldwin because they will be in single coverage. They dont even have to be open...that would put them in a situation where they can make the catch and break one tackle before taking off for 6.

Hot read or single coverage.

Its not that hard, playa.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Matt Cassel brought it upon himself.

If we had a quarterback that stayed poised under pressure (well, we do but he isnt allowed to play because of checkdowns contract and connection to Piolis ego) and found the open man, the opposing defense would be forced to drop everybody back into coverage to compensate or at least bring less on the blitz...instead defenses know that if they blitz Cassel he stops making reads and panics.

Until Cassel learns to beat the blitz, the blitz will continue to tear his game apart at the seams.

****, we have a huge size advantage over almost any corner in the league...how about when the opposing team blitzes, just throw it up to Bowe or Baldwin because they will be in single coverage. They dont even have to be open...that would put them in a situation where they can make the catch and break one tackle before taking off for 6.

Hot read or single coverage.

Its not that hard, playa.

What's a "hot read"?

/Matt Cassel

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Matt Cassel brought it upon himself.

If we had a quarterback that stayed poised under pressure (well, we do but he isnt allowed to play because of checkdowns contract and connection to Piolis ego) and found the open man, the opposing defense would be forced to drop everybody back into coverage to compensate or at least bring less on the blitz...instead defenses know that if they blitz Cassel he stops making reads and panics.

Until Cassel learns to beat the blitz, the blitz will continue to tear his game apart at the seams.

****, we have a huge size advantage over almost any corner in the league...how about when the opposing team blitzes, just throw it up to Bowe or Baldwin because they will be in single coverage. They dont even have to be open...that would put them in a situation where they can make the catch and break one tackle before taking off for 6.

Hot read or single coverage.

Its not that hard, playa.

So you want Cassel to chuck it up 10 yards down the field?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

So you want Cassel to chuck it up 10 yards down the field?

haha something like that. Tht may a little bit "out there" for him though.

If we are in 3 wide (like we were a lot yesterday) annd the opposing team brings 6 or 7 on the blitz...either one of your wideouts is totally uncovered or everyone is in single coverage.

To good quarterbacks, that makes their mouth water...especially if they have a receiving core like ours.

To answer your question...yes, absolutely.

If he is under pressure I would be totally fine if he did what Jimmy Clausen did while under pressure...chuck it up to Baldwin or Bowe (or in Jimmys case, Floyd while at ND)

Baldwin has a 4 inch and 30 pound size advantage over almost any corner in the league. In single coverage, he is damn close to undefendable.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'll try to find it, but I remember seeing something that said Cassel's QBR against the blitz was something like 35.

That's brutal.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'll try to find it, but I remember seeing something that said Cassel's QBR against the blitz was something like 35.

That's brutal.

All during camp the last few years they have tried a ****ton of activities to try and get him used to making decisions while under pressure.

Throwing medicine balls and beach balls at him while he goes through reads in practice are a couple things that immediately come to mind.

I know that Zorn is one of the best outside the box thinkers and is a damn good problem solver that has mentioned many times stuff they have tried to break him of the habit...to no avail.

Its not gonna change. Period.

While at NE, it was around his 6th or 7th game as starter and Chris Collinsworth made a big deal about it during a game. Saying that Bill Billichick talked to him personally about the specific problem (stop looking downfield as soon as a hint of pressure presents itself) and how (at the time) they were advising him to take sacks and keep going through progressions.

Here we are 4 years later and the guy still has the exact same problem.

Lets face it, no matter what anybody tries to do for this guy, he is unable to fix some of these problems and that is why he should have stayed a backup and that by this time next year, he will likely be one again.

[Okie_Apparition]

I like the fact people get all worked up because Cassel gets worked up. He & Rivers need to learn to keep their emotions in check. He didn't learn behind Brady what he should have. He's the Katie Horner of QBs

[MahiMike]

I typically don't bash Cassel and I don't think he deserves too much today. I do know that lotsa QBs can't handle the pressure of constantly getting hit (Gabbert is already being labeled as having issues here in Jax). Cassel was under pressure from the beginning and that was both the OL's fault as well as the OC.

That being said, I saw a few times where he scrambled very well, had bought plenty of time and then just rushed it. I also was ticked at how he never looks for Baldwin unless they're near the goal.

I will say that Cassel's a tough dude and admire how he gets back up after the big hits.