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Old 08-18-2016, 07:52 AM  
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Barnwell on Derek Carr
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Carr's offensive line allowed him to do things that were relative luxuries for Bortles and Bridgewater, like breathe in the pocket without fearing for his life. Carr was pressured on only 21.6 percent of his dropbacks, the fifth-lowest rate among starting quarterbacks. A quarterback who gets the ball out quickly can distort that number (see: Tom Brady), but other metrics suggest that wasn't the case with Carr. He took 2.44 seconds before his typical pass, 15th in the league. Carr's average throw traveled 7.67 yards in the air, which was slightly below league average and one full yard deeper than the typical Bridgewater pass (6.66)...


It's another Oakland credo to go after enormous receivers. Carr's average pass went to a receiver who was 74.3 inches tall (a little over 6 feet 2), giving him the fourth-largest receiving corps in football. (Jacksonville's grouping was third.) Sadly, they weren't always his friends. Oakland's pass-catchers, which will return virtually unchanged in 2016, dropped 5.1 percent of Carr's throws last year. That was the fifth-worst rate in the league. It's hard to see these receivers combining to drop as many passes in 2016, particularly Cooper, who should be healthier after struggling through plantar fasciitis a year ago. While analyses suggesting Cooper dropped 18 passes seem off the mark, ESPN Stats & Information has Cooper down for 10 drops on 126 targets, the second-highest total in the league behind Tampa's Mike Evans.

The one perhaps concerning quirk surrounding Carr's 2015 season is what happened as it went along: Namely, Carr got worse. A lot worse. His QBR during Weeks 1-9, covering Oakland's first eight games, was 11th in the league at 66.6. During Oakland's final eight games, Carr's QBR dropped to just 35.1, leaving him 28th out of 29 passers. Only Bortles, coincidentally, was worse. Carr's decline came under duress. He had the league's lowest pressure rate during the first half of the year, at 17.6 percent. Over the final eight weeks, that pressure rate leaped up to 25.0 percent. That was only eighth in the league, but it was enough to help throw Carr off track....


There is something that will have to improve, though, fluke or otherwise: Late in games, for whatever reason, Carr was a mess. He posted a 19.9 QBR in the fourth quarter and overtime, which was the second-worst mark in the league ahead of Nick Foles. Bortles, one spot ahead of Carr, finished at 31.2. Seven of Carr's 13 picks came in the fourth quarter and OT, despite the fact that he threw only 31 percent of his passes during that time frame. Only Matthew Stafford had a higher interception rate in the fourth quarter/OT (6.8 percent) than Carr (5.3 percent).
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Old 08-22-2016, 12:24 PM   #241
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Methodology

  • Rankings like this are always going to be subjective in nature, but we tried to eliminate any preconceived notions by disregarding stats and team success, which can be influenced by a number of factors outside of a quarterback’s control.
  • Instead, quarterbacks are judged based on film study. Every evaluation was based on all-22 game film from a few of that player’s most recent starts.
  • Emphasis has been placed on process rather than result. If a quarterback made the right play but was let down by a teammate or a defender made a spectacular play, he was graded positively. Conversely, if he made a poor decision but was bailed out, he was graded negatively.
  • Based on this film study, each quarterback is graded in six categories on a scale of 1-to-100, the averages producing the final scores determining the overall rankings. Here’s how those grades were weighted:
    • Accuracy: 20%
    • Arm Strength: 15%
    • Athleticism: 10%
    • Pocket presence: 20%
    • Field vision: 20%
    • Pre-snap: 15%
At least they go into how they came to the rankings. Certainly more to it than a lot of the QB lists that get tossed out there.
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Old 08-22-2016, 01:30 PM   #242
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Isn't that the truth. If some people do it because they enjoy it, fine. But others quote trolls and then get mad when the trolls keep throwing out more bait. It's almost unbelievable. I don't think I have anyone one ignore. It really shouldn't be that hard to just see a post for what it is.
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Old 08-22-2016, 04:14 PM   #243
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Old 08-22-2016, 04:33 PM   #245
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This settles it. Kirk Cousins is better than Tom Brady.

I'm glad we finally got that squared away.
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This settles it. Kirk Cousins is better than Tom Brady.

I'm glad we finally got that squared away.
Well not just Kirk Cousins, but also Andy Dalton, Alex Smith and Tyrod Taylor.

Bryan Hoyer is 19th, Phillip Rivers is 20th and Andrew Luck is 25th.

I dont know the best way to rank QBs, but this isnt it.
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Put this way, if the chiefs had a 2nd year qb on the track carr is on, I'd be pretty happy with it and excited for the future
If carr were on this team, posters would be naming their newborns derek.

Derek on this team with our rbs and receiving trio would be deadly and everyone would be going nuts.
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