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Old 08-30-2017, 02:57 PM   #1
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That's a glib response.
Cleveland's done well in drafting offensive lineman, from Alex Mack to Joe Thomas to Mitch Schwartz and Joel Bitonio.

It's possible that Erving sucks but it's just as possible that he wasn't suited for Hue's offense.

Time will tell.
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Old 08-30-2017, 05:19 PM   #2
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Cleveland has an excellent track record of drafting and developing players

Dane literally made me spit my drink out.

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Old 08-30-2017, 03:01 PM   #3
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Browns trade Cameron Erving to Chiefs

The Browns weren’t able to trade cornerback Joe Haden, but they have been able to move another player that was on their trading block.

The Browns have traded offensive lineman Cameron Erving to the Chiefs in a deal announced by both teams on Wednesday afternoon. Kansas City will send a 2018 fifth-round pick to Cleveland.

The Browns now have 13 picks in the 2018 draft, including five in the first two rounds and multiple picks in every round other than the third and seventh.

Erving was a 2015 first-round pick by the Browns and spent most of last season as their starting center. He also saw time at guard and was getting time at tackle this summer, but was ticketed for a backup role before reports of their interest in trading him emerged this week.

Erving will likely be in a reserve role for the Chiefs as well and his experience at multiple positions could wind up changing their plans about which other offensive linemen were headed for the 53-man roster. Erving is signed through the 2018 season with salaries of just under $1.3 million and just over $1.7 million.

Erving is the second trade acquisition of the week for the Chiefs. They acquired linebacker Reggie Ragland for a 2019 fourth-round pick in an earlier deal.



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Old 08-30-2017, 03:04 PM   #4
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Would they have taken the time to ask Mitch Schwartz what his opinion of Erving is, prior to making the trade?
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:05 PM   #5
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Would they have taken the time to ask Mitch Schwartz what his opinion of Erving is, prior to making the trade?
That was my initial thought as well.
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:11 PM   #6
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Eh.

Feels like when the Royals signed Travis Wood.

Maybe he'll be better than what we already have?
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:21 PM   #7
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All this fuss over a back up OL? They will coach him up and he'll be alright. He can't do any
Worse than what we've seen Mahomes deal with.
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Erving has ranked inside the bottom three at his position in each of the last two years in terms of his pass-block efficiency.

On 438 passing plays in 2016, Erving was tied for second among centers for total pressures allowed.

The Browns this offseason recently signed former Green Bay Packers center J.C. Tretter and former Cincinnati Bengals guard Kevin Zeitler, who ranked ninth and seventh, respectively, at their positions last year.

Right tackle is realistically the only spot he can compete at, and with Shon Coleman producing a PFF grade of 72.2 on the small sample of 62 snaps, there may not be a starting spot for the 2015 first-round draft pick on the Browns offensive line in 2017.
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I'll say this regarding Erving.

I give the Browns staff credit for coaching OL, but it's almost impossible to be as bad as Erving has been while being relatively physically gifted. Watching his feet makes simply no sense to me at all. I didn't even like him coming into the draft (the Barnes thread was the most involved conversation I had) but I never saw a guy who simply couldn't set his base.

He's regressed considerably. He isn't THIS bad. There has to be a mental roadblock that he's just not clearing. Something is ****ed up between his ears because there's no reason he should be arguably the worst damn interior lineman in football.

So if the physical tools are there, there's at least a non-zero chance that Heck can unlock them.

I'd still cut Jah Reid's ass. Keep Fisher, Schwartz, Morse, Ehinger, LDT, Witzmann, Fulton and Erving. Squirrel Mama away on the PS with Devey. If you lose another T, you move Witzmann out wide and bring Mama up as his replacement on the interior.
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What's colquitts number next year? Surely he's gone as well, right?
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We need to plug Erving in right away and let Alex Smith get hurt. Would be worth every penny if that happened.
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We need to plug Erving in right away and let Alex Smith get hurt. Would be worth every penny if that happened.
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