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Until any restrictions in my area are lifted 85 39.17%
Until I'm vaccinated 18 8.29%
Until the end of time 7 3.23%
Until I personally feel it's safe not to 45 20.74%
I don't wear a mask in public 56 25.81%
Until Gaz says not to anymore 6 2.76%
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Old 03-18-2021, 07:33 AM  
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How long do you plan on wearing a mask in public?

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Old 03-31-2021, 01:03 PM   #241
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Maybe my experiences were more of a rural vs city thing.
Almost every argument these days is...
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Old 03-31-2021, 01:06 PM   #242
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It's a vaccine that doesn't prevent you from getting the virus. Go to the sites of the different vaccines and look for yourself.

The idea is that it prevents the worst from happening if you do get it and you can fight it off quicker if there's a present weakness to it.

I've been exposed to it daily for a year now. I never got sick, I'm relatively young at 45, and I'm in good health. I simply don't need it. I can see why some people do I'm just not willing to risk unknown side effects when I've had no problem fighting it off without one...
Yes, they don't have 100% efficacy, like I just stated. Pfizer and Moderna are ~95% and J&J is about 70%

That means that they prevent infection along those numbers.
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Old 03-31-2021, 01:10 PM   #243
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Yeah, I was going to basically say the same thing after Googling Tom Woods.... the three main words I got from a couple of sites were politics, author, historian. And all of the videos that popped up about Covid.

And I have no idea if that guy inserts politics into his Covid discussions, but I just don't see how his opinion should matter a ton either by looking at who he is, just like any other non-scientific research (and if he does use scientific research, I'd rather just read that than whatever commentary he has on top of it).
I noticed that nobody has addressed that the idiots running the show thought it was a great idea to remove liability for these companies making the vaccines. Now why do you suppose they did that? I'm open to ideas but I'm pretty sure I already know the answer.

As for Woods, he's just a libertarian commentator. But the information he provides is interesting and not what you typically see on your news network shows or from politicians. Yes, he's been railing on the mask mandates a lot but that really isn't his normal thing. I just mentioned his name because if I wasn't signed up for his email newsletter or listen to his podcast, I probably would not have known some of this good information. I would suggest that you look over his stuff and decide for yourself.
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Old 03-31-2021, 01:13 PM   #244
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Yes, they don't have 100% efficacy, like I just stated. Pfizer and Moderna are ~95% and J&J is about 70%
And that's fine it's just important that people know that. I have personally clearly been healthy enough to have no problems fighting this off for nearly a year now. I have been lucky.

When people hear the word "vaccine" there are a number of assumptions people make. They shouldn't, but they do.

I'm fine with people having the freedom to make their own health choices.
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I noticed that nobody has addressed that the idiots running the show thought it was a great idea to remove liability for these companies making the vaccines. Now why do you suppose they did that?
I don't like anything that has to do with this.

I don't like unreliable tests. I don't like how similar the symptoms are to the flu for many/most people. I don't like inaccurate info coming out of the news media non-stop. I don't like the politics tied to it. There are any number of ways this bug could be used by any number of people to manipulate others, and it has been.

I was a huge pro-Trump guy but I disagree with his handling of almost everything to do with Covid. It would appear that I disagree with Biden's as well...
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That is the biggest change IMHO - people have FINALLY realized that fighting through a sickness can actually affect other people.


And to add to that, I think people have started washing their hands more. I have always been a little OCD about washing hands to the point where friends would make fun of me about it. Who's laughing now, MFers?
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And that's fine it's just important that people know that. I have personally clearly been healthy enough to have no problems fighting this off for nearly a year now. I have been lucky.

When people hear the word "vaccine" there are a number of assumptions people make. They shouldn't, but they do.

I'm fine with people having the freedom to make their own health choices.
But you said that it's a vaccine that doesn't prevent you from getting the virus. They absolutely do in the vast majority of cases, just not 100%

And yes, anyone who thinks getting vaccinated means you have zero chance of being infected is misinformed.
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But you said that it's a vaccine that doesn't prevent you from getting the virus. They absolutely do in the vast majority of cases, just not 100%
Let me restate that - it doesn't guarantee you're immune to the virus.

The assumption by most is that vaccine=immunity. Creating anything that did wasn't going to happen in 6 months. That's not realistic.

What I also hate is the complete absence of any information being given to people about basic health decisions that can impact immunity. Basic info on how to reduce inflammation in the body, diet, and medications that can impact the immune system.

There are a number of small decisions that people can make to stack the deck in their favor. Concentrate on what we can control instead of constant panic and worry.

Will zinc and oregano make you immune? Of course not but they may have a small impact in helping out the immune system. Get sunlight, exercise, and make an effort to eat a few foods or take a few healthy supplements.

I hate the narrative that we're all doomed without the vaccine and that it's our salvation.
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But you said that it's a vaccine that doesn't prevent you from getting the virus. They absolutely do in the vast majority of cases, just not 100%

And yes, anyone who thinks getting vaccinated means you have zero chance of being infected is misinformed.
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But you said that it's a vaccine that doesn't prevent you from getting the virus. They absolutely do in the vast majority of cases, just not 100%

And yes, anyone who thinks getting vaccinated means you have zero chance of being infected is misinformed.
Zero chance of getting infected? No. In the (very unlikely, objectively) event you get it despite having been vaccinated, in the Vast majority of those cases, you will be truly asymptomatic.

Zero chance of transmission? Well, we have zero instances recorded of transmission from truly asymptomatic individuals to others, in any peer reviewed study or any data which has been gathered to this point. Pre-symptomatic folks we have spread, but not truly asymptomatic. So unless you're among the very rare instances of the very rare instances where you have a symptomatic infection despite being vaccinated, we have no cause to believe there is any chance of transmission at this time.

Same with the "does it protect against variant strains" question. Up to this point, we have no recorded strains which are NOT covered by the existing vaccine. So though there's certainly the possibility for new data to arise in the future, anyone indicating "yes" to that is answering accurately as far as we know at this time.
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Woke up sick as a dog yesterday. Choked up like a mother****er. Phlegm flying out of my orifices. Took some cough syrup and naturally felt even shittier. Had terrible sleep and woke up four or five times due to congestion.

I was sure I had COVID. My mind immediately started thinking about tubes being shoved down my throat at the hospital. Where I had been, who I had been in contact with. You stupid bastard.

95% operational today. It was just allergies from running outside in a full breeze, got a snootful.

The media really did a number on American brains.
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Woke up sick as a dog yesterday. Choked up like a mother****er. Phlegm flying out of my orifices. Took some cough syrup and naturally felt even shittier. Had terrible sleep and woke up four or five times due to congestion.

I was sure I had COVID. My mind immediately started thinking about tubes being shoved down my throat at the hospital. Where I had been, who I had been in contact with. You stupid bastard.

95% operational today. It was just allergies from running outside in a full breeze, got a snootful.

The media really did a number on American brains.
Not really most people dont die from it but can feel extremely sick. That's why I wasnt going out to eat and stuff til getting vaccinated. Not worth it.
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Not really most people dont die from it but can feel extremely sick. That's why I wasnt going out to eat and stuff til getting vaccinated. Not worth it.
I got the sniffles for a couple hours from my case.

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This thread reminds of a previous thread from a few years back: How long do you wipe your ass? I believe Luv's comment won that thread: until the wipe is brown no more, which seems an appropriate response here, metaphorically speaking, of course.
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