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Old 03-10-2023, 07:46 PM  
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Old 03-19-2023, 09:03 AM   #241
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I’m not trying to claim I know what Veach is going to do, but I can see a strictly incentive based contract for OBJ. He’ll have to earn most of his money, he’s too risky. Would much rather pay up and get Hopkins.
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Old 03-19-2023, 09:16 AM   #242
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He an Hopkins are not exactly playoff warriors

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316 yrd. 2 tds. 5 games

Playmakers make plays
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Old 03-19-2023, 11:05 AM   #243
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Cowboys trade for Brandin Cooks. A 5th and a 6th. Probably out on OBJ
Shit, we should have been on that.

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Old 03-19-2023, 11:10 AM   #244
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Shit, we should have been on that.

Damn.
I dunno. I like Veach with the picks. If you hit home runs, you can always flip out of those players for bigger packages of picks too. Kinda like Hill. Wouldn’t shock me if that was in the future for Pacheco.

I’m leaning OBJ. He’s had a year off to get healthy. He won’t require giving up picks. As long as it’s a 1-year deal, then I’m in.

Use an early pick on a WR and let Moore/Toney develop in the system. OBJ helps get us by for a year until those guys gain the consistency they need.
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Old 03-19-2023, 11:30 AM   #245
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He an Hopkins are not exactly playoff warriors

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True. Who were the playmakers that were throwing them the ball?
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Old 03-19-2023, 11:50 AM   #246
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I’m not trying to claim I know what Veach is going to do, but I can see a strictly incentive based contract for OBJ. He’ll have to earn most of his money, he’s too risky. Would much rather pay up and get Hopkins.
I was working through scenarios a couple days ago on what is likely to be his contract and quickly realized how bad an incentive based contract for him could play out.

“I need the ball!!! If I don’t score I don’t get paid”

We just moved on from Tyreek partially because of that.
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Old 03-19-2023, 11:59 AM   #247
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I was working through scenarios a couple days ago on what is likely to be his contract and quickly realized how bad an incentive based contract for him could play out.

“I need the ball!!! If I don’t score I don’t get paid”

We just moved on from Tyreek partially because of that.
I was thinking about this last night. OBJ has a history of being a diva and also very demanding about his targets. Not sure if he's really a good fit in KC from a teammate standpoint. You may not have to trade a pick for him, but he's going to probably require a lot of accommodations in terms of targets, gameplanning, and so forth to keep him happy.
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Old 03-19-2023, 12:20 PM   #248
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He an Hopkins are not exactly playoff warriors

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446 yds. 1 td. 6 games

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316 yrd. 2 tds. 5 games

Playmakers make plays
A stat without complete context. Hopkins was on some pretty meh playoff teams that just made it with a stroke of luck. OBJ was the number 2 in his run with the rams. And was really putting cincy in a bind when he tore his acl. He wasn’t just the number 2 he was the number 2 who was a late season addition and was playing with a wr1 who was setting records. For a guy with a slow rams start he sure looked pretty decent.

27 catches for 305 yards and scored 5 touchdowns in 8 games .
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Old 03-19-2023, 12:22 PM   #249
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Stafford and Watson are good enough. Murray....
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I was working through scenarios a couple days ago on what is likely to be his contract and quickly realized how bad an incentive based contract for him could play out.

“I need the ball!!! If I don’t score I don’t get paid”

We just moved on from Tyreek partially because of that.
This isnt even remotely true. We moved on from him because he wanted $30 mil/yr and we had a number set that we wouldn't go over and that was over the budget. Had nothing to do with complaining about wanting the ball.
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OBJ has been a great team mate from what Ive heard. He works hard, he can get open! And man can he catch!

Really, this wouldnt be much different than what we did with JuJu. He was coming off an injury season where he missed most of the year. Apparently he had a chronic knee issue that swells up all the time.

Id give OBJ something similar to what we gave JuJu but I would make it a two year deal, 2nd year easy to get out of but would give us control if he blows up.

This is no more risky than last year with MUCH greater upside.
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This isnt even remotely true. We moved on from him because he wanted $30 mil/yr and we had a number set that we wouldn't go over and that was over the budget. Had nothing to do with complaining about wanting the ball.
He said that was the reason publicly so he didn’t have to admit he had a ring and wanted to get paid the max.
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OBJ has been a great team mate from what Ive heard. He works hard, he can get open! And man can he catch!

Really, this wouldnt be much different than what we did with JuJu. He was coming off an injury season where he missed most of the year. Apparently he had a chronic knee issue that swells up all the time.

Id give OBJ something similar to what we gave JuJu but I would make it a two year deal, 2nd year easy to get out of but would give us control if he blows up.

This is no more risky than last year with MUCH greater upside.
I’m not a fan of obj. I’d rather go with DHop at the right comp.

Has he been a great teammate? His dad posted film on insta of his qb not throwing him the ball and turned the entire locker room against baker. And before you say that’s just baker being baker, he did the same damn thing with Eli manning and coughlin. Then he strings the Rams along with this whole dog and pony show even after they basically set a locker aside for him to return. And we’ve seen over the past few weeks that the dude has a tyrann mathieu obsession with clapping back with people on social media

Reid and mahomes can make it work but I’m not crazy about it
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This isnt even remotely true. We moved on from him because he wanted $30 mil/yr and we had a number set that we wouldn't go over and that was over the budget. Had nothing to do with complaining about wanting the ball.
Eh, Hill did say on Sharpe's show that he felt that he wasn't targeted enough in KC. That's on tape.
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OBJ can move on with little repercussions, it's his history. You gotta marry Hopkins, you pay the dowry
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