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Old 12-10-2023, 09:46 PM  
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Offsides reality

Looking at the offsides on Toney and the “Let them play” mentality a few things stick out.

1. He was offsides and like it or not, that is inexcusable on his part. Toney should never line up offsides…….ever. That’s a Pee Wee league type of mistake. He didn’t just start playing football this year. Pre snap penalties are the worst because they are completely preventable. He should have never left it up to a ref to decide one way or another, especially with the quality of reffing league wide lately.

2. I get the “Let them play” mindset and not letting a questionable call impact a game. But it can’t be “Let them play” when convenient and when not calls should be made. Look at the SB when KC benefited from a penalty that essentially sealed the game. Had the refs swallowed the whistle like what was wanted today KC might well have lost the SB. We benefited from that penalty. But today we want to yell at the clouds because it was called. Both times the penalty was called, just this time it went against KC.

3. Even after the penalty they still had time to pick up the yards and score a TD and is systemic of how the offense has played for large portions of the year. This team has a championship caliber defense, but the offense is not what we all expect. That might mean an early exit this year. Simply put if the offense hasn’t figured it out by now I question whether they will.

It is what it is.
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Old 12-11-2023, 03:57 PM   #241
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good teams don't let the refs decide the game

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Old 12-11-2023, 04:06 PM   #242
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You might be right, but it just doesn't matter, Taylor has to conform to the league's wishes or he will keep getting flagged. It's really that simple.
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Glad this happened now rather than in the playoffs.
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Old 12-11-2023, 04:07 PM   #243
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Yep. Taylor has been called for 16 enforced penalties, the next closest is 11 (bears rookie right tackle). He may be targeted but he’s not cleaning it up. It happens every week. That’s inexcusable for a veteran high-priced guy like Taylor.
I think he’s up to 17 penalties now… for 110 total yards lost.

That’s almost like giving up 17 sacks. In terms of lost yardage.

Mahomes can at least escape most sacks… he can’t escape a RT who shits all over himself with penalties.
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Old 12-11-2023, 04:11 PM   #244
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I think he’s up to 17 penalties now… for 110 total yards lost.

That’s almost like giving up 17 sacks. In terms of lost yardage.

Mahomes can at least escape most sacks… he can’t escape a RT who shits all over himself with penalties.


Hey, at least we're paying him $80 million over 4 years and our cap situation looks good, so there's always a silver lining.
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Old 12-11-2023, 04:20 PM   #245
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That's bad officiating, period.

total BS officiating...
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Old 12-11-2023, 04:36 PM   #247
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Old 12-11-2023, 04:41 PM   #248
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Looks like he did check.

Why doesn't he buckle his chinstrap?
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total BS officiating...
I'm sure the owners will ensure changes are made after their winter meetings in Dallas.
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Old 12-11-2023, 08:15 PM   #250
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This has probably been discussed elsewhere today but I've been super busy and haven't had time to look. What was the crow chanting after the offisides call? I couldn't make it out.
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refs wanted the bills to win. That's why they reversed Kelce's fumble. That's it.
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Yep. Taylor has been called for 16 enforced penalties, the next closest is 11 (bears rookie right tackle). He may be targeted but he’s not cleaning it up. It happens every week. That’s inexcusable for a veteran high-priced guy like Taylor.
Flags against him is not a fair metric to use. The flags are bullshit, every other tackle would have just as many or more if officiating was “balanced”, he’s under a microscope where other tackles are ignored.
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Flags against him is not a fair metric to use. The flags are bullshit, every other tackle would have just as many or more if officiating was “balanced”, he’s under a microscope where other tackles are ignored.
Somebody should tell him that and he quit doing it.
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Yep. Taylor has been called for 16 enforced penalties, the next closest is 11 (bears rookie right tackle). He may be targeted but he’s not cleaning it up. It happens every week. That’s inexcusable for a veteran high-priced guy like Taylor.
If you don't have the talent to block defenders, you commit penalties like holding, false starts, etc. Taylor is jumpy at the LOS because he's worried that the guy across from him is going to beat him. On the other side, you have Donovan Smith who is the holding king. WTH Veach was thinking when he brought those two aboard I have no idea...
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If you don't have the talent to block defenders, you commit penalties like holding, false starts, etc. Taylor is jumpy at the LOS because he's worried that the guy across from him is going to beat him. On the other side, you have Donovan Smith who is the holding king. WTH Veach was thinking when he brought those two aboard I have no idea...
So you would have brought back OBJ and Wylie and paid them collectively about 6 mil more a year?
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