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Old 03-08-2024, 03:07 PM   #1
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It's not exactly "nothing;" if Jones walks it's a future 3rd.
Maybe. It’s all a part of the formula, but not a guaranteed 3rd.
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Old 03-08-2024, 03:38 PM   #2
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Maybe. It’s all a part of the formula, but not a guaranteed 3rd.
It's basically a high 4th.

For a HOF player.

If this is over 3 or 4 million you pay the man his money and move on. Play hardball with a player you can afford to lose...
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Old 03-08-2024, 03:06 PM   #3
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Old 03-08-2024, 03:18 PM   #4
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Old 03-08-2024, 03:13 PM   #5
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really wish the NFL cap was like NBA. The incumbent team can sign a player for an extra year, which makes for a richer deal than all the players want. This often facilitates Sign & Trade where everyone gets something of value.

Or a cap apron they can go over to sign their own guys by paying some luxury tax.
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Old 03-08-2024, 03:47 PM   #6
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- Why not wait and see what the open market has to offer within the legal tampering period (Monday at noon)? Would the Chiefs really pull their best and final offer?

IF I'M VEACH
- I submit my best and final offer on Sunday, and hope Chris accepts. If he doesn't, and it floats for a day or two, I tell him I have to pursue another route.


When he hits the tampering period, he's going to see some ridiculous numbers. And then he'll have a choice - home town discount to stay, or chase the money. If he waits too long, KC will have to move on - lesson learned with OBJ last year.
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Old 03-08-2024, 03:48 PM   #7
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IF I'M CHRIS
- Why not wait and see what the open market has to offer within the legal tampering period (Monday at noon)? Would the Chiefs really pull their best and final offer?

IF I'M VEACH
- I submit my best and final offer on Sunday, and hope Chris accepts.


When he hits the tampering period, he's going to see some ridiculous numbers. And then he'll have a choice - home town discount to stay, or chase the money.
You submit your best offer Sunday if you are Veach so you can quickly move forward Monday if he doesn't accept. No time to waste if they want Wilkins for example.
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Old 03-08-2024, 03:49 PM   #8
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You submit your best offer Sunday if you are Veach so you can quickly move forward Monday if he doesn't accept. No time to waste if they want Wilkins for example.
Yep, i edited it to account for that.

Cannot be left swinging in the wind again like we were with OBJ.
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Old 03-08-2024, 03:51 PM   #9
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Yep, i edited it to account for that.

Cannot be left swinging in the wind again like we were with OBJ.

My fear is that is what will happen

No evidence so far of a plan b and we will end up reaching for an average player as we did with Taylor.


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Old 03-08-2024, 03:58 PM   #10
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My fear is that is what will happen

No evidence so far of a plan b and we will end up reaching for an average player as we did with Taylor.
Except for the last several years of Veach and his approach to FA.

If Jones isn't done by the legal tampering window, he'll have a matter of hours to change his mind. Not days.

Because if the window opens, Veach is moving on. He's going after Wilkins or Chase Young or Leonard Williams.

He's not going to sit on his capital while the options dry up (and then the lack of options gets used as a lever against him by other agents). It's simply not how he's operated.

He absolutely has a Plan B. And C and D and E if necessary. Which is why this absolutely cannot be a "Pay Jones whatever he wants" scenario.
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Old 03-08-2024, 04:20 PM   #11
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IF I'M CHRIS
- Why not wait and see what the open market has to offer within the legal tampering period (Monday at noon)? Would the Chiefs really pull their best and final offer?

IF I'M VEACH
- I submit my best and final offer on Sunday, and hope Chris accepts. If he doesn't, and it floats for a day or two, I tell him I have to pursue another route.


When he hits the tampering period, he's going to see some ridiculous numbers. And then he'll have a choice - home town discount to stay, or chase the money. If he waits too long, KC will have to move on - lesson learned with OBJ last year.
Chris Jones’ agents already probably have “off the record” tentative offers in place from the not-legal tampering that goes on with agents and teams at the Combine and this week.
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Old 03-08-2024, 04:24 PM   #12
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Chris Jones’ agents already probably have “off the record” tentative offers in place from the not-legal tampering that goes on with agents and teams at the Combine and this week.
Yep, they know the market. Chiefs won't match it. So he's probably heading somewhere else. The question is whether Sneed is also going as well.
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Old 03-08-2024, 04:06 PM   #13
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Mentioned it last night, but right now you know those greaseball Katz bros are filling Chris' head with shit about what he deserves and dollar amounts that team X, Y, and Z are going to offer.

But Chris is the one who has to ultimately flush out all the emotions, history, and goals he holds in KC to put pen to paper for another franchise. Shit like this is always so much easier said than done.
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Old 03-08-2024, 04:09 PM   #14
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Or maybe Chris has looked at his last 2 years and Aaron Donald’s last 2 years and feels he’s better and deserves more money, which is completely fair.

Doesn’t mean Veach is gonna hand him that but I understand the thought there
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Old 03-08-2024, 04:15 PM   #15
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Or maybe Chris has looked at his last 2 years and Aaron Donald’s last 2 years and feels he’s better and deserves more money, which is completely fair.

Doesn’t mean Veach is gonna hand him that but I understand the thought there
He probably does feel that way but will that money, which he 1000% does not need, be enough to leave a great ****ing situation as a lifer in KC to go somewhere it won't get better?
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