***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

There are a lot of wacky lab values related to COVID.

A lot of patients present with elevated d-dimer and fibrinogen levels in the blood and the more serious cases will also have lymphopenia and leukopenia.

Elevated d-dimer and fibrinogen levels point to coagulopathies (they are byproducts of broken up blood clots), whereas the latter two point to a depleted immune system.

Increased levels of NT-proBNP and BNP are indicative of heart failure and troponin levels indicate recent cardiac damage.

Possibly due to US medical privacy laws I’m surprised that there hasn’t been follow up studies on how different blood types react to the virus. I know blood types like O positive have worse outcomes in accidents due to the blood clotting mechanism not being as robust as the others, but that may be a reason for better outcomes with Covid due to reduced clotting. Surprised we haven’t seen anything on this topic since the China study.

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

There are a lot of wacky lab values related to COVID.

A lot of patients present with elevated d-dimer and fibrinogen levels in the blood and the more serious cases will also have lymphopenia and leukopenia.

Elevated d-dimer and fibrinogen levels point to coagulopathies (they are byproducts of broken up blood clots), whereas the latter two point to a depleted immune system.

Increased levels of NT-proBNP and BNP are indicative of heart failure and troponin levels indicate recent cardiac damage.

Could you clean up what you said for the people out there who call aspirin aspirin?😁

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....24.20075838v1

That’s fascinating, as Vit D has always been linked to the immune response to respiratory ailments one or another. The best antidote for Vit D deficiency is the good old sun in the sky. Hard to get that locked up in your house or meat packing plant. 😬

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....24.20075838v1

I have been coming home from work and undressing in the garage so I don't bring into the house what's on my clothes.

Now I will be doing the same but heading straight for the pool for 10 minutes after work. Heat, sun and chlorine should do the trick!

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

There are a lot of wacky lab values related to COVID.

A lot of patients present with elevated d-dimer and fibrinogen levels in the blood and the more serious cases will also have lymphopenia and leukopenia.

Elevated d-dimer and fibrinogen levels point to coagulopathies (they are byproducts of broken up blood clots), whereas the latter two point to a depleted immune system.

Increased levels of NT-proBNP and BNP are indicative of heart failure and troponin levels indicate recent cardiac damage.

Yeah it is crazy. I was reading the other day the autopsy report from Santa Clara of their newly discovered early February case and they said her heart exploded.

One of my daughters first covid case in ICU she said the person had super thick blood and she was like wtf.

[limested]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

To all the gym goers how long are you going to wait before returning to the gym?

I will be there the minute they open .

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by kgrund

Could you clean up what you said for the people out there who call aspirin aspirin?��

The jargon is not super important. Basically it's a more than a respiratory virus.

[kcxiv]

First person i know has gotten the corona in Los Angeles my little cousin, she's 21. I dont know how bad she is, ill see if i can find out.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....24.20075838v1

So we shouldn't let anyone go outside ......wait

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

There are a lot of wacky lab values related to COVID.



A lot of patients present with elevated d-dimer and fibrinogen levels in the blood and the more serious cases will also have lymphopenia and leukopenia.



Elevated d-dimer and fibrinogen levels point to coagulopathies (they are byproducts of broken up blood clots), whereas the latter two point to a depleted immune system.



Increased levels of NT-proBNP and BNP are indicative of heart failure and troponin levels indicate recent cardiac damage.

I read an article the other day just talking about the crazy variety of ailments that are being caused by (or at least linked with) COVID-19. It's baffling how it's able to cause such a wide variety of problems and at dramatically varying levels of severity.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by O.city

So we shouldn't let anyone go outside ......wait

who isnt allowed to go outside? i dont really go anywhere, but im outside doing yard work in the am til it gets too hot, because we are already in the 90's here. lol My brown ass is turning even browner.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I read an article the other day just talking about the crazy variety of ailments that are being caused by (or at least linked with) COVID-19. It's baffling how it's able to cause such a wide variety of problems and at dramatically varying levels of severity.

It's really not that crazy for a virus. It's just not as out front as this one is.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by O.city

It's really not that crazy for a virus. It's just not as out front as this one is.

not that crazy? that dude form the Rams was it or saints i dont know, but the doctors told him he would have no taste for 8 months. thats wierd as ****.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

First person i know has gotten the corona in Los Angeles my little cousin, she's 21. I dont know how bad she is, ill see if i can find out.

My friend is 25 and he got it... He got really sick for like a week but then was fine.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

not that crazy? that dude form the Rams was it or saints i dont know, but the doctors told him he would have no taste for 8 months. thats wierd as ****.

This virus has been around for 2/3 months. How do the doctors know what lies 8 months out?