***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Brooke is a hot! Best thing about that channel.

I've learned to watch everything i can myself. All news channels try to spin everything.

Hell if you looked up fox news online you'd be hard pressed to even know there is a coronavirus right now...

[petegz28]

KC staying with the 15th and will continue crippling businesses when they do open

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

I've learned to watch everything i can myself. All news channels try to spin everything.

Hell if you looked up fox news online you'd be hard pressed to even know there is a coronavirus right now...

I'll get you hooked on CBC eventually lol. dry and boring as shit and some of the girls are ugly. but just the info mostly I can make my own opinion.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by TLO

On a more serious note. If they have a vaccine ready by September, I think this would be far and away the fastest vaccine ever created.

I love vaccines. I think they are truly amazing.

But a vaccine created this fast concerns me for safety reasons.

Then again about a month ago I was ready to start throwing every possible theraputic in the book at people to see if it helped. So that probably wasn't very safe thinking.

[petegz28]

So these businesses that are only allowed to operate and 50% or even 25% of capacity, do they get a reduction in kind for all their bills?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by petegz28

KC staying with the 15th and will continue crippling businesses when they do open

That sounds like a rather alarmist way to phrase something.

[petegz28]

So now Lucas is saying some businesses will open next week but those are businesses that have little public trafficking such as an advertisement firm, etc.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

KC staying with the 15th and will continue crippling businesses when they do open

Discuss... I'll take my $10,000 real dollars now

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

So these businesses that are only allowed to operate and 50% or even 25% of capacity, do they get a reduction in kind for all their bills?

I think we will see a boom in food trucks .

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

That sounds like a rather alarmist way to phrase something.

Really? Here Mr. Business owner, you can open...at 50% capacity but you will still be expected to pay 100% of your costs, so sorry if that keeps you from making your bills and salaries.


That's not alarmist, bro. That's the facts.

[Donger]

Dr. Anthony Fauci said remdesivir coronavirus trial showed that the mortality rate trended "towards being better" with patients who took the drug.

Fauci, speaking at the White House alongside President Trump, added he was told that the data shows the drug has a "clear-cut, significant, positive effect in diminishing the time to recovery."

About the trial: Pharmaceutical company Gilead Sciences said today it is "aware of positive data emerging from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases' (NIAID) study of the investigational antiviral remdesivir for the treatment of COVID-19."

Remember: The World Health Organization said it’s too early to comment on the remdesivir trial results released today.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

Dr. Anthony Fauci said remdesivir coronavirus trial showed that the mortality rate trended "towards being better" with patients who took the drug.

Fauci, speaking at the White House alongside President Trump, added he was told that the data shows the drug has a "clear-cut, significant, positive effect in diminishing the time to recovery."

About the trial: Pharmaceutical company Gilead Sciences said today it is "aware of positive data emerging from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases' (NIAID) study of the investigational antiviral remdesivir for the treatment of COVID-19."

Remember: The World Health Organization said it’s too early to comment on the remdesivir trial results released today.

**** The WHO

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by BWillie

is there anything Remdesivir can't do

Provide 4 hour erections like Viagra and Patrick Mahomes

[tk13]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I think we will see a boom in food trucks .

I think we'll see people do carry out in higher numbers too. But the idea that things are going to return to normal regardless of restrictions is complete fantasy. A lot of people aren't going to do any of these things, they're going to stay home. It'll be better than it is now but most places just aren't going to do the amount of business that sustained them before.

The economy will rebound when people have confidence to go outside and not get this thing. That's been true since the beginning of March.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by tk13

I think we'll see people do carry out in higher numbers too. But the idea that things are going to return to normal regardless of restrictions is complete fantasy. A lot of people aren't going to do any of these things, they're going to stay home. It'll be better than it is now but most places just aren't going to do the amount of business that sustained them before.

The economy will rebound when people have confidence to go outside and not get this thing. That's been true since the beginning of March.

Absolutely.. Couldn't have said it better myself..