***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

your a moran is more accurate than there isnt a reason to buy luxury goods because you are a ****ing moran.

and they gave people money to stimulate the economy, buying stuff does just that.


an your still and idiot

You realize that the expressed reason for stimulus was to cover expenses for 10 weeks, right?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

You realize that the expressed reason for stimulus was to cover expenses for 10 weeks, right?

well surely you realize that some people had enough to cover their expenses already, right?


so you can either say he spent the stimulus check on it or spent that on bills and his savings on the soundbar.


either way it comes out the same. economy stimuation.

and you're an idiot.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Great. So you're okay with potentially exposing N number of people to C-19 that wouldn't have been to fulfill your unnecessary order of a soundbar to save $200.

I prefer to see it as helping the economy

[Mecca]

If anyone can cover their expenses for 10 weeks with 1200 bucks I'd like to witness that since my rent is more than that.

[staylor26]

JFC Discuss is the ****ing WORST.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If anyone can cover their expenses for 10 weeks with 1200 bucks I'd like to witness that since my rent is more than that.

that would cover my bills for about 2 days.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Hey I have you know a badass soundbar is not a luxury good it is vital, especially when I'm watching way more tv than usual.

Nebraska has a deal going for the Playbar and Sub for $1k. I was thinking of getting that but I want 5.1 and no wires so I am looking to get the JBL 5.1 soundbar for $450 for my downstairs. Probably end up getting the Sonos Playbar and Sub for the living room where I am not so concerned about 5.1.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by O.city

Russia eh?

Look how awesome China did too.

China has done a good job because they are communist and do not care about human rights. They may have hid info, but as of now, they have greatly limited the spread compared to us. They wear masks. They are willing to isolate more. Conversely, in our culture, many will refuse to not go to church during this.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

well surely you realize that some people had enough to cover their expenses already, right?


so you can either say he spent the stimulus check on it or spent that on bills and his savings on the soundbar.


either way it comes out the same. economy stimuation.

and you're an idiot.

Economic 'stimulation' takes a back seat to containing a viral epidemic. Sorry.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If anyone can cover their expenses for 10 weeks with 1200 bucks I'd like to witness that since my rent is more than that.

Exactly why people need to get back to work. And that's just your rent. Not food, utilities, etc.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Economic 'stimulation' takes a back seat to containing a viral epidemic. Sorry.

Now you're kinda starting to talk like you wanna kill the headache by cutting off the head.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Nebraska has a deal going for the Playbar and Sub for $1k. I was thinking of getting that but I want 5.1 and no wires so I am looking to get the JBL 5.1 soundbar for $450 for my downstairs. Probably end up getting the Sonos Playbar and Sub for the living room where I am not so concerned about 5.1.

I'll probably add the sub after the fact, I found the playbar for 520 and I'll probably add 2 of the smaller one speakers for the surround affect and maybe add a sub after the fact since they are ridiculous for price.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

your a moran is more accurate than there isnt a reason to buy luxury goods because you are a ****ing moran.

and they gave people money to stimulate the economy, buying stuff does just that.


an your you're still and idiot

I don't agree with you that he is an idiot but I thought I'd throw you this bone.....

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Great. So you're okay with potentially exposing N number of people to C-19 that wouldn't have been to fulfill your unnecessary order of a soundbar to save $200.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'll probably add the sub after the fact, I found the playbar for 520 and I'll probably add 2 of the smaller one speakers for the surround affect and maybe add a sub after the fact since they are ridiculous for price.

I was gonna do that. I have one Sonos 1 in the kitchen and I like it. I have heard it is pretty good for surround. Just an expensive ordeal and I really don't have a good place in the living room for them as surrounds without the Wife crying about some kind of cable being exposed.