***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[baitism]

Discuss would stay inside if the government told him sunlight caused COVID. I haven't changed my lifestyle one bit. If other people are scared of the flu+ that's on them.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I don't agree with you that he is an idiot but I thought I'd throw you this bone.....

uhhhhh...

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I was gonna do that. I have one Sonos 1 in the kitchen and I like it. I have heard it is pretty good for surround. Just an expensive ordeal and I really don't have a good place in the living room for them as surrounds without the Wife crying about some kind of cable being exposed.

Luckily my house has lots of outlets and where I'd put the 1's there are outlets basically right below them.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Now you're kinda starting to talk like you wanna kill the headache by cutting off the head.

No I achieved what I set out to do in calling out Mecca for being a gigantic hypocrite for being one of the biggest social distance warriors posting here but still thinking it's okay to risk additional exposure to others by buying stuff he doesn't actually need.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

No I achieved what I set out to do in calling out Mecca for being a gigantic hypocrite for being one of the biggest social distance warriors posting here but still thinking it's okay to risk additional exposure to others by buying stuff he doesn't actually need.

How do you know that the people who fulfilled his order aren't wearing masks and practicing social distancing?

[Mecca]

I wouldn't consider myself a social distance warrior...my son works at a ****ing grocery store so I'm probably way more exposed than most.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Donger

How do you know that the people who fulfilled his order aren't wearing masks and practicing social distancing?

So you're a hypocrite too eh?

Flatten the curve for thee but not for me.

Not surprising.


Anyway, masks and social distancing aren't foolproof unless you're insinuating literally everyone in the supply chain has N95's and face shields on and even then they're people at risk for nonessential goods and not things people actually need to buy such as, you know, food or medicine.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

My niece is an ER nurse over at Wesley. She's had 5 positive patients this week. I don't believe it's from those 5 patients, but she was showing some symptoms. Got tested this morning. They told her she should have the result in the next couple hours. Hoping for negative.

Results are back..... negative.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Results are back..... negative.

awesome , still waiting on those pictures to confirm the diagnosis.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

So you're a hypocrite too eh?

Flatten the curve for thee but not for me.

Not surprising.


Anyway, masks and social distancing aren't foolproof unless you're insinuating literally everyone in the supply chain has N95's and face shields on and even then they're people at risk for nonessential goods and not things people actually need to buy such as, you know, food or medicine.

Ah, so you don't know if the people who fulfilled his order aren't wearing masks and practicing social distancing.

Not at all. I'm all for flattening the curve through mitigation efforts. I follow those effort, too.

Nothing's foolproof in this, except for completely cutting off contact with other humans.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

So you're a hypocrite too eh?

Flatten the curve for thee but not for me.

Not surprising.


Anyway, masks and social distancing aren't foolproof unless you're insinuating literally everyone in the supply chain has N95's and face shields on and even then they're people at risk for nonessential goods and not things people actually need to buy such as, you know, food or medicine.

oh jesus christ...


i'm a guy losing at least 1k a day in billable labor. shut the **** up with this shit.

[Mecca]

Out of curiosity, a friend of mine keeps calling me and bitching that his internet is laggy, keeps ****ing up etc etc, mind you he always has issues with it..

Yet now because he saw 1 news report he's spinning it into, everyone is having issues with their internet....are you guys having net problems?

I personally am not, everyone is here more and doing work from here...lots of video streams gaming etc etc and no lag everything is normal, so I kinda think he's full of shit.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Monticore

awesome , still waiting on those pictures to confirm the diagnosis.

[lewdog]

My test results come back tomorrow.

Hoping for a positive. I’ve got no symptoms a week out from my exposure.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Results are back..... negative.