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[Tribal Warfare]

Chiefs vs Browns Odds & Betting Lines - Dec 15

Spread Favorite: Kansas City (-4.5)
Moneyline: Kansas City (-234), Cleveland (+192)
Total: 42.5 points

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Raiderhater

My homer glasses are in their protective case. It just gets tiring reading all of the bitching week in and week out over a 13-1 team. Everyone has been bitching about sphincter clenching last second one score wins for weeks, we finally don’t have one if those and instead of being grateful that we avoided that, everyone starts bitching about something else instead.

This place is on the perpetual rag.

I get how ridiculous it is but it's also a testament to the fact that we know these guys can play better on offense. If we're being honest both the fact that we know the Chiefs are inevitable and will find a way and the fact that the Chiefs are not playing well (either because of Andy losing his mind with the playcalling or Mahomes just being off on throws he used to make) can both be true.

I have zero worries about this team right now. They have ALWAYS kicked it up a gear in the post-season. And I have a lot of faith that the coaches know who to play and how to play them. But the execution on offense is off and even when Mahomes had time today he was still off. Maybe it's unrealistic to expect him to change the way he plays/feels out there in just one game and it was massively encouraging to see the O-Line not give up a sack today.

We'll be fine, but all the concern - while a bit goofy around a 13-1 team that holds opponents typically under 20 points per game - only shows the level of greatness we want for this team.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Raiderhater

My homer glasses are in their protective case. It just gets tiring reading all of the bitching week in and week out over a 13-1 team. Everyone has been bitching about sphincter clenching last second one score wins for weeks, we finally don’t have one if those and instead of being grateful that we avoided that, everyone starts bitching about something else instead.

This place is on the perpetual rag.

I just can't wrap my head around how our three-time Super Bowl MVP quarterback suddenly looks like Damon Huard. It is frankly horrifying.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Again, the defense allowed ONE score on a long breakaway run. The game was in hand a long time ago, regardless of how much the cowards whined about it.

I don’t disagree we weren’t losing but the fact is our terrible offensive performance led to Mahomes being in a game he should have been resting in after the third quarter.

[493rd]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Are you suggesting they run every down?

Of course not. But when you see your O line getting consistently beat and picking the franchise player off the turf every snap, maybe handing the ball off a little might help. Andy should know better.

[GordonGekko]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Every Chiefs fan loves Pat. This board ran with my "**** Pat he sucks" comment earlier in the season when he threw a pick and then blew out Rice's knee. But it was a one off comment in that moment.

But he's been ASS basically all year. I watch other games each week and see QB's make throws deep with regularity and terrible line play.

Pat just sucks this year. Doesn't mean he won't turn it around, but last year it was the drops. This year, it's him. Today he had some great pockets at times and he was still awful.

The regression for Mahomes started last year actually, but all of the WR drops gave everyone much more focus/concern. I am 100% sure Nagy is to blame, the playcalling has been horrible, I don't think any current NFL QB would flourish with these playcalls. Today was about the worst of the playcalls though, given the ball back 6 times by the defense and can only win by 14?!?

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

You think people should be happy because Mahomes got hurt due to the stupid ****ing playcalling?

That’s certainly . . . . . . . . . a take.

The post I quoted was complaining about the lack of points after 6 turn overs.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Sorry, he is a hero of mine so I've been in denial.

It's getting hard to justify defending his play. I feel like I'm watching Alex Smith again.

Alex Smith offenses didn't look this bad.

[493rd]

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation

Hollywood is going to fix everything next week (thinly veiled sarcasm)

It’s exciting to get him back, but if the line can’t block it won’t much matter. Additionally, Pat sucks throwing deep so not really sure how much he’ll help.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by Raiderhater

The post I quoted was complaining about the lack of points after 6 turn overs.

My bad. Noted.

[mr. tegu]

Allen made that drive with two great throws. Not going to hit those all the time. Lions just have to keep up their game script and the Bills won’t stop them much.

[comochiefsfan]

Originally Posted by GordonGekko

The regression for Mahomes started last year actually, but all of the WR drops gave everyone much more focus/concern. I am 100% sure Nagy is to blame, the playcalling has been horrible, I don't think any current NFL QB would flourish with these playcalls. Today was about the worst of the playcalls though, given the ball back 6 times by the defense and can only win by 14?!?

Nagy is brutal.

If you watch any footage of him at camp or practice it’s very obvious his role is pretty much Mahomes’ personal cheerleader.

I think Pat misses someone like EB who would keep him focused and hold him accountable.

I’ve got a feeling that the staff right now is stacked full of his buddies and I’m not sure that’s the best thing for him as a player.

[493rd]

Originally Posted by GordonGekko

The regression for Mahomes started last year actually, but all of the WR drops gave everyone much more focus/concern. I am 100% sure Nagy is to blame, the playcalling has been horrible, I don't think any current NFL QB would flourish with these playcalls. Today was about the worst of the playcalls though, given the ball back 6 times by the defense and can only win by 14?!?

What everyone seems to be missing when discussing Mahomes is how Kelce’s big play threat has disappeared this year. Mahomes still has the magic improv ability, but he’s not same QB without a game breaking Kelce.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

I get how ridiculous it is but it's also a testament to the fact that we know these guys can play better on offense. If we're being honest both the fact that we know the Chiefs are inevitable and will find a way and the fact that the Chiefs are not playing well (either because of Andy losing his mind with the playcalling or Mahomes just being off on throws he used to make) can both be true.

I have zero worries about this team right now. They have ALWAYS kicked it up a gear in the post-season. And I have a lot of faith that the coaches know who to play and how to play them. But the execution on offense is off and even when Mahomes had time today he was still off. Maybe it's unrealistic to expect him to change the way he plays/feels out there in just one game and it was massively encouraging to see the O-Line not give up a sack today.

We'll be fine, but all the concern - while a bit goofy around a 13-1 team that holds opponents typically under 20 points per game - only shows the level of greatness we want for this team.

There is a pretty big difference in what you typed here and “OMGZWTFBBQ!!!111 THE SKY IS FALLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!!!”.

You are addressing certain things in a calm and reasonable manner, while some of these other drama queens just bitch and moan incessantly.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by Frazod

I just can't wrap my head around how our three-time Super Bowl MVP quarterback suddenly looks like Damon Huard. It is frankly horrifying.

I think it is quite obvious that the o-line has… not broken him, but screwed him up. Consistent line play would start to bring him back around.

[Bob Dole]

I need to catch up on what we’re whining about today.

I had to watch the game on an iPhone 7. Where does that rank?