***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[carlos3652]

To be fair - if your AGI was 150-170k last year and you are one of the lucky 30 million plus furloughed - you won’t be spending it. The reason you have a savings account for moments like this is because one is usually frugal with money. This would go into savings until this is over.

I can live 3-4 months off my savings with no income, but on unemployment- you bet your ass you cut out all the fat in your lifestyle to weather this out

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, I had a good friend that lived on Victoria Island earlier this decade and the only internet service available to him was via satellite, which was slow and expensive.

Yeah my cottage internet sucks like 10mbps 90 bucks a month with a cap.
My cell phone is 115$ a month for Canada wide calling/texting and 10gig a month, sat Tv like 150$ a month for mostly basic stuff.

Not enough telecom competition to reduce prices.

[Mecca]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...rce=reddit.com

Lockdown is leading to Nintendo making a butt ton more money.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Mecca

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...rce=reddit.com

Lockdown is leading to Nintendo making a butt ton more money.

Sounds like a win for small businesses, yea?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Mecca

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...rce=reddit.com

Lockdown is leading to Nintendo making a butt ton more money.

Should have invested that sound bar money with them. Only thing better than a new sound bar is three new sound bars.

[BWillie]

South Korea with 9 new cases yesterday, after being a hot spot weeks ago. Why?

They wear masks. Everywhere.

That is all we have to do. That's it. Then you guys can go back to work. Whatever you want to do. Mandate masks. This is effectively over. Annoying? Sure. Just masks until vaccine.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Donger

Ah, so you don't know if the people who fulfilled his order aren't wearing masks and practicing social distancing.

Not at all. I'm all for flattening the curve through mitigation efforts. I follow those effort, too.

Nothing's foolproof in this, except for completely cutting off contact with other humans.

IMHO, you should have used the word "whether" in place of that "if."

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I am jealous, I pay 90$ a month for 50mbps.

Jesus. I pay $70 for a gigabit.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by BWillie

South Korea with 9 new cases yesterday, after being a hot spot weeks ago. Why?

They wear masks. Everywhere.

That is all we have to do. That's it. Then you guys can go back to work. Whatever you want to do. Mandate masks. This is effectively over. Annoying? Sure. Just masks until vaccine.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Married Couples filing Jointly whose AGI is $0-$150k received $1,200 dollars each, or $2,400 per household. If those same couples have children, they receive an additional $500 per child.

Married Couples filing Jointly whose AGI is $150,001-$198,000 receive $600 per adult and $500 per child.

Married Couples whose AGI was greater $198,001 received zero.

If a Married couple whose AGI was greater than $150k needed $1,200 dollars in order to get by for 10 weeks, they have much bigger problems than the pandemic.



And that's the exact opposite reason for providing Stimulus money to those on the upper end of the spectrum. People that can spend the money, should spend the money.

Saving it does absolutely nothing for the economy and in the end, what's $1,200 to people who's AGI is greater than $150k?

It’s not quite that simple for married couples over 150k. The amount you received starting at $2400, was reduced by $5 for every $100 over 150k you made. A couple who made 155k would get $2150 so close to the maximum. A couple at 180k would receive $900 total which really further illustrates that they are likely going to nothing but spend that money on random things to help the economy.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Sounds like a win for small businesses, yea?

Well I admit, I bought a game from them in this time frame.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Pants

IMHO, you should have used the word "whether" in place of that "if."

No. Using 'whether' instead of 'if' would have made that sentence nonsensical.

[Discuss Thrower]

No surprises here.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

No surprises here.

That sucks and I have pretty much given up on having sports this year unless this virus just magically disappears.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by TLO

IMHE is throwing in the towel on Missouri and several other states due to places opening back up for business.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/unite...erica/missouri

That's weird it's just some states. Wonder why