***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[jerryaldini]

Probably the most important number to watch bay state R0. Sorry if Q

https://rt.live/

[dirk digler]

Not political but definitely mind blowing at this point

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...testing-226980

The Capitol’s attending physician said Thursday that coronavirus tests will be available for staffers and senators who are ill, but not enough to proactively test all 100 senators as the chamber comes back in session, according to two people familiar with the matter.

In a conference call with top GOP officials, Dr. Brian Monahan said there is not sufficient capacity to quickly test senators for coronavirus

[Stryker]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I have not noticed strong use of masks in the Midwest.

You will - I guarantee.

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by Stryker

I don't understand how SO MANY can take this lightly. This is a very serious issue. I understand the devastation of the economy and the need to want "normality" again but it just isn't going to happen until a TRUE vaccine is found - the reality is, it is not going to happen until next year, if even then. Face it - the life as we know it is on hold until that point in time.

Wanna bet?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Stryker

I don't understand how SO MANY can take this lightly. This is a very serious issue. I understand the devastation of the economy and the need to want "normality" again but it just isn't going to happen until a TRUE vaccine is found - the reality is, it is not going to happen until next year, if even then. Face it - the life as we know it is on hold until that point in time.

You do realize a vaccine may never be found right?

Face it, life will go back to normal in the next few months or people will take it back.

[Monticore]

Some info on cytokines storm , no clue on the source but I was curious on if people with autoimmune diseases were more likely to get the cytokines storm.

More info anyways take from it what you will

https://creakyjoints.org/symptoms/cy...mmune-disease/

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

Wanna bet?

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Stryker

You will - I guarantee.

BTW - Kansas Furniture Mall in Olathe is giving away 5 free masks to anyone. You don't have to do anything except pull up.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Stryker

I don't understand how SO MANY can take this lightly. This is a very serious issue. I understand the devastation of the economy and the need to want "normality" again but it just isn't going to happen until a TRUE vaccine is found - the reality is, it is not going to happen until next year, if even then. Face it - the life as we know it is on hold until that point in time.

That’s why we need herd immunity.

An effective/scalable vaccine will take too long.

A leading group of pandemic experts is saying as much...

Link: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/30/healt...ars/index.html

The new coronavirus is likely to keep spreading for at least another 18 months to two years—until 60% to 70% of the population has been infected, a team of longstanding pandemic experts predicted in a report released Thursday.

Because Covid-19 is new, no one has any immunity, they said. "The length of the pandemic will likely be 18 to 24 months, as herd immunity gradually develops in the human population," they wrote.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You do realize a vaccine may never be found right?

Face it, life will go back to normal in the next few months or people will take it back.

Haven't you mentioned you do something that has to do with hospitals? If that is the case, I don't understand your misinformation.

There is no reason to expect a vaccine will not come.

[LiveSteam]

SMH

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Haven't you mentioned you do something that has to do with hospitals? If that is the case, I don't understand your misinformation.

There is no reason to expect a vaccine will not come.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...maybe-not.html

We Might Never Get a Good Coronavirus Vaccine

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

That’s why we need herd immunity.

An effective/scalable vaccine will take too long.

A leading group of pandemic experts is saying as much...

Link: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/30/healt...ars/index.html

Even at the LOWEST estimates of CFR say, 0.5% that is alot of dead people. 331,000,000 x 70% = 231,700,000 x 0.005 = 1.2M dead

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I have not noticed strong use of masks in the Midwest.

In my small town it is about 50/50 when you go to Walmart which is better than I would have guessed

[displacedinMN]

47 dead at the senior facility by me. Rumor half of the residents are infected.
Friends dad is ok for now. Friends dad's wife died in September.

Neighbor is freaking out.