Chiefs Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on. - Page 175

Hammock Parties · 02:56 AM

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

BigCatDaddy · 09-10-2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

RAGE!

The fight against Homerism and True Fandom marches on!

Reporting for duty, sir!

BigCatDaddy · 09-10-2013, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

He brought the 49ers from behind in the NFCC. A fumble ruined that for them, but you can't (even though you have tried) pin that on Smith. He has proven he can take a team from behind in big games.

From what defict was that? Are you ACTUALLY trying to compare what Schaub did to that title game?

Red Gorilla · 09-10-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

RAGE!

The fight against Homerism and True Fandom marches on!

There is a difference between True Fandom/Homerism and understanding reality.

Bitch and moan, make more banners, and figure out the formulas for success all you want but, Clark's done catering to us for a long while.

Reid, Dorsey, Smith, and Daniels are here for at least the next three years.

keg in kc · 09-10-2013, 09:54 AM

The question is whether Smith can do what Schaub did last night, and help throw his team out of a 28-7 hole after halftime. Because he's going to have to at some point. You can't manage your way to 20-17 wins every week, especially against playoff-caliber competition. Sometimes you need that 300 yard, 3 TD game.

Sandy Vagina · 09-10-2013, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The question is whether Smith can do what Schaub did last night, and help throw his team out of a 28-7 hole after halftime. Because he's going to have to at some point. You can't manage your way to 20-17 wins every week, especially against playoff-caliber competition. Sometimes you need that 300 yard, 3 TD game.

serious question, but I'd ask how long Schaub has been in the same system? I'll say, he does have some excellent targets to get the ball to.. and generally a very good run game to keep defenses on their toes.

Jakemall · 09-10-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The question is whether Smith can do what Schaub did last night, and help throw his team out of a 28-7 hole after halftime. Because he's going to have to at some point. You can't manage your way to 20-17 wins every week, especially against playoff-caliber competition. Sometimes you need that 300 yard, 3 TD game.

"NINERS 24, EAGLES 23

OCT. 2, 2011

THE SITUATION: This comeback began after the Eagles took a 23-3 lead with 9:30 left in the third quarter. In the next six minutes and 32 seconds, Smith competed 6 of 6 passes for 138 yards, tossing a 30-yard touchdown to Joshua Morgan and a 9-yarder to Davis. Yes, Montana-esque. Trailing 23-17 with 6:28 left, Smith completed 3 of 4 passes for 13 yards on an eight-play, 77-yard march capped by Frank Gore’s 12-yard run with 3:00 left."

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2011/12...s-joe-vs-alex/

Red Gorilla · 09-10-2013, 10:05 AM

Smith has actually done it the same number of times as Schaub when you include last night

The both have 10 fourth quarter comebacks and 12 game winning drives.

They both have more than Aaron Rogers.

Sandy Vagina · 09-10-2013, 10:07 AM

^ nevermind... checked it.

Schaub has been in a WCO for all of his last 6 seasons with Houston... and had the same OC for the last 4 years,

keg in kc · 09-10-2013, 10:22 AM

That 2011 philly contest would be an interesting game to look at from the standpoint of QBR. ESPN lists it as a 35.1 (average being 50), despite his traditional rating being 112.1. Which, according to their description of the metric, means his play was not actually that great a contribution towards the win. I didn't see the game, so I can't really speak about it beyond that.

Carlota69 · 09-10-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

"NINERS 24, EAGLES 23

OCT. 2, 2011

THE SITUATION: This comeback began after the Eagles took a 23-3 lead with 9:30 left in the third quarter. In the next six minutes and 32 seconds, Smith competed 6 of 6 passes for 138 yards, tossing a 30-yard touchdown to Joshua Morgan and a 9-yarder to Davis. Yes, Montana-esque. Trailing 23-17 with 6:28 left, Smith completed 3 of 4 passes for 13 yards on an eight-play, 77-yard march capped by Frank Gore’s 12-yard run with 3:00 left."

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2011/12...s-joe-vs-alex/

BOOM!

BigCatDaddy · 09-10-2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

"NINERS 24, EAGLES 23

OCT. 2, 2011

THE SITUATION: This comeback began after the Eagles took a 23-3 lead with 9:30 left in the third quarter. In the next six minutes and 32 seconds, Smith competed 6 of 6 passes for 138 yards, tossing a 30-yard touchdown to Joshua Morgan and a 9-yarder to Davis. Yes, Montana-esque. Trailing 23-17 with 6:28 left, Smith completed 3 of 4 passes for 13 yards on an eight-play, 77-yard march capped by Frank Gore’s 12-yard run with 3:00 left."

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2011/12...s-joe-vs-alex/

You had me interested until I got to this

Holy shit! I would have also thought he would have cracked 300 yards in that game. Guess not.

Jakemall · 09-10-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

You had me interested until I got to this

Holy shit! I would have also thought he would have cracked 300 yards in that game. Guess not.

In that last drive he threw 4 times and yes the one incomplete pass was deep. The running plays were breaking off 10+ yards a pop. I don't remember if he was changing the plays to running based on his pre-snap reads.

The previous two drives he went to the air a lot.

I wasn't aware that throwing for 300 yards was prerequisite for coming back or winning a game? You also have to remember that they were down 23-3....that basically means they were stuffed for an entire half.

Jakemall · 09-10-2013, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

That 2011 philly contest would be an interesting game to look at from the standpoint of QBR. ESPN lists it as a 35.1 (average being 50), despite his traditional rating being 112.1. Which, according to their description of the metric, means his play was not actually that great a contribution towards the win. I didn't see the game, so I can't really speak about it beyond that.

If I remember correctly, the Eagles were 1-2 going into that game. They had just lost games to the Giants and the Falcons, both considered elite teams. All expectations were that they'd mop the floor with the 9ers. After the loss they had a freefall season. It just got worse and worse. So, I think his rating was based upon how badly they did.

jerryforeverrice80 · 09-10-2013, 10:41 AM

[QUOTE=Jakemall;9959825]"NINERS 24, EAGLES 23

OCT. 2, 2011

THE SITUATION: This comeback began after the Eagles took a 23-3 lead with 9:30 left in the third quarter. In the next six minutes and 32 seconds, Smith competed 6 of 6 passes for 138 yards, tossing a 30-yard touchdown to Joshua Morgan and a 9-yarder to Davis. Yes, Montana-esque. Trailing 23-17 with 6:28 left, Smith completed 3 of 4 passes for 13 yards on an eight-play, 77-yard march capped by Frank Gore’s 12-yard run with 3:00 left."

i remember justin smith making the big play at the end of the game with the strip fumble to seal the win.

BigCatDaddy · 09-10-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

In that last drive he threw 4 times and yes the one incomplete pass was deep. The running plays were breaking off 10+ yards a pop. I don't remember if he was changing the plays to running based on his pre-snap reads.

The previous two drives he went to the air a lot.

I wasn't aware that throwing for 300 yards was prerequisite for coming back or winning a game? You also have to remember that they were down 23-3....that basically means they were stuffed for an entire half.

It's not. It's just odd that Alice seems alergic to them even when circumstances dictates that he should have had massive yardage accumlated.

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09-10-2013, 09:54 AM	#2614
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	The question is whether Smith can do what Schaub did last night, and help throw his team out of a 28-7 hole after halftime. Because he's going to have to at some point. You can't manage your way to 20-17 wins every week, especially against playoff-caliber competition. Sometimes you need that 300 yard, 3 TD game.
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Red Gorilla Banned Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $10004900	Smith has actually done it the same number of times as Schaub when you include last night The both have 10 fourth quarter comebacks and 12 game winning drives. They both have more than Aaron Rogers.
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09-10-2013, 10:22 AM	#2619
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	That 2011 philly contest would be an interesting game to look at from the standpoint of QBR. ESPN lists it as a 35.1 (average being 50), despite his traditional rating being 112.1. Which, according to their description of the metric, means his play was not actually that great a contribution towards the win. I didn't see the game, so I can't really speak about it beyond that.
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jerryforeverrice80 Starter Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $10011292	[QUOTE=Jakemall;9959825]"NINERS 24, EAGLES 23 OCT. 2, 2011 THE SITUATION: This comeback began after the Eagles took a 23-3 lead with 9:30 left in the third quarter. In the next six minutes and 32 seconds, Smith competed 6 of 6 passes for 138 yards, tossing a 30-yard touchdown to Joshua Morgan and a 9-yarder to Davis. Yes, Montana-esque. Trailing 23-17 with 6:28 left, Smith completed 3 of 4 passes for 13 yards on an eight-play, 77-yard march capped by Frank Gore’s 12-yard run with 3:00 left." i remember justin smith making the big play at the end of the game with the strip fumble to seal the win.
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