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Old 07-24-2021, 11:33 AM  
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Old 08-10-2021, 09:27 AM   #2671
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Forget the Clemson kid, he won't see the field much if at all. Gray is a better option and we run some 2 TE sets. He's got the athletic ability.
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Old 08-10-2021, 09:27 AM   #2672
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Old 08-10-2021, 09:28 AM   #2673
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Old 08-10-2021, 09:30 AM   #2674
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I mean, I don't take training camp info too seriously. I'm certainly not counting the Clemson kid out. I'm just saying the better news would be for the Clemson kid to already be talked about as battling it out for #2 with Hardman. Not Hardman has solidified his #2 position.

I understand that if you don't say everything that Chiefs fan wants to hear, you will get chastised, but such is life and I am prepared to deal with the consequences that comes along with such takes. "reerun!!!" "DUMBASS" "KILL HIM WITH THE PITCHFORK!!"
You said it may not be a good thing that Hardman has basically secured that role. You know what else isn't a good thing? Hardman NOT securing that role because he's way more Demarcus Robinson and Byron Pringle than he is Sammy Watkins in terms of ability. If he weren't securing that WR role, it was extremely unlikely it was because Powell was soooo good in the offense already. It was probably going to be because Hardman was sucking eggs.

Your take isn't stupid because it's "not what Chiefs fans want to hear." It's stupid because it's just plain stupid.
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Bwillie's take is based on the premise that Hardman sucks and that we "already know what we have in him". If you're of the mindset that Hardman sucks, then sure, i can see why another WR not challenging him would be viewed as a bad thing.

What's ignorant is saying that a guy who's put up 1100 yards and 10 TD's in two seasons as a limited snap, part time player, "sucks".

That kind of production, not even including his returns, says "EXPLOSIVE". It doesn't say suck.

We should all be excited about what that kid is about to do in a full time role, not lamenting it.
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Unless your Davante Adams, most of the time you don't take the huge step from year 2 to year 3. You take it from year 1 to year 2.

I know alot of people point at targets and he hasn't had a ton the last two years. Usually that is fair, but Hardman's worst skill is route running. He had chances last year with Sammy out a bit and didn't capitalize. Obviously I hope he turns into a monster, I just don't see it happening. I expect an uptick on targets and yards, but only due to necessity. I hope he proves me wrong.
You have to remember that last year was not like any year in NFL history. Everything was locked down during the off-season.

Mecole could not get any help bc he had to sit at home. He could not improve his route running bc of lock downs.

He didn’t really have a chance to get better and it showed
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Old 08-10-2021, 09:53 AM   #2679
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I mean, I don't take training camp info too seriously. I'm certainly not counting the Clemson kid out. I'm just saying the better news would be for the Clemson kid to already be talked about as battling it out for #2 with Hardman. Not Hardman has solidified his #2 position.

I understand that if you don't say everything that Chiefs fan wants to hear, you will get chastised, but such is life and I am prepared to deal with the consequences that comes along with such takes. "reerun!!!" "DUMBASS" "KILL HIM WITH THE PITCHFORK!!"
I don't think that would be good news at all.

If Powell were outplaying Hardman, people would be saying it's a horrible sign that a slow, 5th round rookie is outperforming the 3rd year vet.
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Bwillie's take is based on the premise that Hardman sucks and that we "already know what we have in him". If you're of the mindset that Hardman sucks, then sure, i can see why another WR not challenging him would be viewed as a bad thing.

What's ignorant is saying that a guy who's put up 1100 yards and 10 TD's in two seasons as a limited snap, part time player, "sucks".

That kind of production, not even including his returns, says "EXPLOSIVE". It doesn't say suck.

We should all be excited about what that kid is about to do in a full time role, not lamenting it.
It's sports talk radio-esque (this is not a compliment).
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What's ignorant is saying that a guy who's put up 1100 yards and 10 TD's in two seasons as a limited snap, part time player, "sucks".
He only played 45% of the offensive snaps.

During his BEST SEASON with the Chiefs Sammy Watkins played 70% of the snaps and barely had 100 yards more, and fewer TDs.

Really hard not to be excited about the opportunity coming for Mecole.
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Any Hardman judgement should wait until we play some games. We need him to be a guy that teams need to respect to take the pressure off Travis and Hill some. I am not a huge fan of his but he hasn't been in the 2 slot. Let's see what happens.

I’m holding off on judgment of Hardman & Niang until I see them in game action.

It’s only fair right?
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I’m holding off on judgment of Hardman & Niang until I see them in game action.

It’s only fair right?
Holding off judgement on Niang?

You were judging Niang before he ever got in the ****ing building. Who are you trying to fool?
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Holding off judgement on Niang?

You were judging Niang before he ever got in the ****ing building. Who are you trying to fool?

I’m trying to be fair. I’ve jumped to conclusions on him but I’m willing to let him prove how good he is just like Hardman.

My expectations aren’t very high for either one so they have that going for them.
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