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Old 12-19-2011, 03:44 AM  
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In big win, Chiefs find a leader in Romeo Crennel
This is dangerous. Chiefs players are lobbying openly for Crennel to get the job.

64-year old interim head coaches don't win shit in this league.

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Rookie linebacker Justin Houston grabbed an orange bucket of blue Gatorade and followed a pack of co-conspirators to drench the Chiefs’ new head coach. Romeo Crennel took it, smiled and clapped.

Running back Le’Ron McClain strutted toward Arrowhead Stadium’s west end zone, dropped his helmet around the 25-yard line, and joined five or six teammates in high-fiving and hugging delirious fans.

Crennel missed it. By this time, he was making his way off the field, wiping away tears.

The Chiefs stunned the football world by beating the previously undefeated Packers 19-14 on Sunday, the most shocking outcome in the NFL this season and in Kansas City for longer than that, one that we all might look back on in a few years as the day the franchise’s direction changed.

Three critical developments, in ascending order of importance, emerged from Sunday’s improbable upset: The Chiefs maintained a sliver of playoff hope, reminded a city that football can be fun and almost certainly found their new head coach.

“We treated this as our Super Bowl,” running back Dexter McCluster said. “This was our Super Bowl. You could feel that positive energy.”

What the Chiefs accomplished on Sunday is now the talk of the league. The Packers are still the prohibitive Super Bowl favorites, owners of the second-longest winning streak in NFL history, the model franchise for 31 others trying to build sustainable and long-term success. They’d won 19 straight and came in averaging nearly 36 points per game.

Juxtapose that with an organization in disarray. The Chiefs hadn’t scored more than 10 points since October and have lost five times by 27 points or more — one away from the most since the NFL and AFL merged in 1970.

This last week started with head coach Todd Haley being fired. Kyle Orton, cut by the Broncos a month ago, became the Chiefs’ third starting quarterback of the season. Injuries continue to expose an inexcusable lack of depth.

Nobody wondered whether the Packers would beat the Chiefs as much as they wondered just how badly the Packers would beat the Chiefs.

Then a funny, fun and completely unpredictable thing happened: The Chiefs led for all but 4 minutes, held the Packers to their fewest points and yards since last season, shut down Super Bowl MVP Aaron Rodgers and beat the defending world champions.

It can’t be as simple as Tyler Palko sitting, and the plainly capable Orton playing, can it?

Because even before this, Crennel figured to drop the “interim” from his new title as head coach after Haley’s firing.

But now, after the team’s most inspired effort of the season, the Chiefs almost surely have their man. The locker room is rooting for Crennel to get the permanent job — actually, some Chiefs players are openly lobbying for it.

“Everything was different,” McClain said of the past week. “More meeting time. More football time. Learning your opponent better, understanding your opponent. I know I watched more film this week than I watched all year. Everything was different, man. Good different.”

Especially after Haley openly admitted the Jets were better prepared than the Chiefs last weekend. What you hear from players now is both an indictment of the past and endorsement of the future with Crennel.

McCluster: “I know everybody in this locker room will fight for him.”

Receiver Terrance Copper: “He doesn’t give us a reason not to play hard for him.”

Running back Thomas Jones: “He’d be a great choice for us.”

Receiver Steve Breaston, a noted Haley supporter, even referred to Crennel’s nickname after the game on Twitter: “Yeah by the way … Rac City!!!!”

The descriptions of Crennel are a general sketch of what owner Clark Hunt and general manager Scott Pioli say they want in a head coach.

Crennel treats everyone with respect. He is obsessed with details, with fundamentals, with the kind of preparation that means the Chiefs know their opponents better than the other way around.

Crennel makes his own decisions (Orton found out he was starting Sunday’s game before Pioli did) without being insubordinate. He gives credit to his players first, his assistants second and himself never.

“I was just standing on the sideline,” he said. “That’s all I did today. They got it done.”

The parallels are too many to ignore. Crennel is consistent. He is dedicated. You will never see him take the kind of unsportsmanlike-conduct penalty that Haley drew in his last game.

Crennel went 24-40 over four seasons in Cleveland, but you know that Bill Belichick was also fired by the Browns before taking over the Patriots.

Pioli believes in guys he’s worked with, guys who’ve been in his system before. He believes that smart and motivated people get better with experience and can learn from mistakes.

In other words, Crennel fits.

The immediate impact of the Chiefs winning his first game in charge is kind of fun and mostly obvious. Green Bay’s perfect season is over. The Chiefs can still claim a mathematical shot at the playoffs.

A fan base is truly encouraged for the first time since that Monday night win over the Chargers, when the Chiefs improved to 4-3 and receiver Dwayne Bowe spray-painted his shoes and a dozen or so teammates put on “Scream” masks to celebrate on Halloween.

But it’s the other stuff that is more important, the other stuff that the players seem to know gives this a chance to be more than a temporary reprieve like their win in Chicago two weeks ago.

The feeling is entirely different this time. Some of that is Orton, who ran the offense well enough to knock off an opponent that hadn’t lost in more than a year.

The bigger part is Crennel, and a genuine vibe in the locker room that this team has found the right coach to make a still-promising future become reality.
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:38 AM   #256
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If you don't want Romeo as HC that's fine.

There are good arguments to be made there. Personally, I'm worried our D will take a step back.

But to make excuses like age is BS.

"It can't be done because it's never been done."

That's not a good reason to avoid something - it's the reason to do it...
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:40 AM   #257
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"It can't be done because it's never been done."

That's not a good reason to avoid something - it's the reason to do it...
I honestly can't believe I'm hearing this reasoning after all the debates over drafting first round QBs on here in the last 5 years.
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:46 AM   #258
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I honestly can't believe I'm hearing this reasoning after all the debates over drafting first round QBs on here in the last 5 years.
It's early (or late for some of us) but I'm not sure I follow.

I don't think we can't draft a QB just because we haven't.

I don't think it's impossible for Pioli to change his MO and trade up.

I don't think it's impossible for a team that hasn't won a playoff game in 2 decades to win one.
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:49 AM   #259
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No. Because each Chiefs team is different, with it's own set of independent variables.
. Each 64 year old head coach is different, with his own set of independent variables.
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It's early (or late for some of us) but I'm not sure I follow.

I don't think we can't draft a QB just because we haven't.

I don't think it's impossible for Pioli to change his MO and trade up.

I don't think it's impossible for a team that hasn't won a playoff game in 2 decades to win one.
But... 50 years of NFL history...
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. Each 64 year old head coach is different, with his own set of independent variables.
I'd argue they are less different than a team comprised of many individuals.
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:55 AM   #262
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Here is a good comparison:

Head coaches 60 and over who won Super Bowls: 3 (Ewbank, Vermeil, Coughlin)

Quarterbacks 35 and over who won Super Bowls: 4 (Elway, Plunkett, Staubach, Unitas)

Maybe we could trade for Manning and hire Romeo, though. Let's spit in fate's eye.
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I'd argue they are less different than a team comprised of many individuals.
I'd argue Romeo, DV, and Marv Levy are about as different as HC's get.

I always thought Marv would flop out with a heart attack on the sidelines.
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Here is a good comparison:

Head coaches 60 and over who won Super Bowls: 3 (Ewbank, Vermeil, Coughlin)

Quarterbacks 35 and over who won Super Bowls: 4 (Elway, Plunkett, Staubach, Unitas)

Maybe we could trade for Manning and hire Romeo, though. Let's spit in fate's eye.
What are the odds of drafting a top 10 QB and him winning a SB?

What are the odds of getting married and not getting divorced?

What are the odds of having a child without any type of abnormality?

There are no guarantees in life...
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This is amusing.

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Crennel used The Gladiator to help get his team ready for this game. He'd seen it last weekend in the hotel, before the Chiefs played the Jets, and he took some Russell Crowe into the Saturday night team meeting with him. "I told the team that, like the gladiator, we were going to play a great team in Green Bay, and no matter what comes out of these gates, we've got to stay together,'' Crennel said. "We did that. I told them after the game, 'Everyone expected us to die with honor today. But we're not ready to die.' ''

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1h5HXDzDx
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This is amusing.
And he beat an undefeated team.

I don't care if he threw pop-tarts at the cheerleaders.

Win is win is win is win...
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"It can't be done because it's never been done."

That's not a good reason to avoid something - it's the reason to do it...
If we had used this reasoning throughout history we would still be living in caves.
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then by all means, toss that chair at Geraldo!!!
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If we had used this reasoning throughout history we would still be living in caves.
If we hadn't used this reasoning the world would still be ****ing flat and we'd all be driving VW's...
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I honestly can't believe I'm hearing this reasoning after all the debates over drafting first round QBs on here in the last 5 years.
At face value, your argument has merit.

When one realizes that you're against Romeo Crennel because you're FOR Jeff Fisher, it yanks quite a bit of legitimacy from your argument.

History suggests that NEITHER Romeo nor Fisher would win a Super Bowl with the Chiefs. You can't have it both ways.
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