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Old 07-22-2021, 11:36 AM  
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Old 07-23-2021, 11:16 AM   #256
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Yup. Exactly why I haven’t been vaccinated. I identify as vaccinated
Did you have Covid?
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Old 07-23-2021, 11:17 AM   #257
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For what it's worth, having a vaccination better protects you from further infections as past infections.

That's only going to be triply true as we see more variants.
Eh, not necessarily. Previous infection has sturdy immunity.

Depending on infection severity that is.
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Old 07-23-2021, 11:23 AM   #258
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Did you have Covid?
Yes. The wife and I both had it.
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Old 07-23-2021, 11:24 AM   #259
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This may be true but it would be silly to make it a requirement.
I disagree.
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Old 07-23-2021, 11:25 AM   #260
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For what it's worth, having a vaccination better protects you from further infections as past infections.

That's only going to be triply true as we see more variants.
I’ll take my chances, thanks!
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Old 07-23-2021, 11:25 AM   #261
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Eh, not necessarily. Previous infection has sturdy immunity.

Depending on infection severity that is.
Not as good as vaccination, though. The breakthrough rate of people who are vaccinated is much lower than people who have been previously infected.
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Old 07-23-2021, 11:25 AM   #262
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Yes. The wife and I both had it.
Yeah, you theoretically should be ok. There's some stuff now showing delta has breakthru infections even with previous infection but it would likely be mild I would guess.

A single immunization would give the max protection FYi.
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Old 07-23-2021, 11:26 AM   #263
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I’ll take my chances, thanks!
I live in Springfield, Missouri, staylor26.

Springfield, Missouri.

There are two huge Covid ICUs in two very large hospitals packed full of people who took their chances.
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Old 07-23-2021, 11:26 AM   #264
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Not as good as vaccination, though. The breakthrough rate of people who are vaccinated is much lower than people who have been previously infected.
Israeli data contradicts this.
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Israeli data contradicts this.
Eh, every other study shows the opposite, I'm gonna guess the Israeli data is an outlier.
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Old 07-23-2021, 11:30 AM   #266
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Israeli data contradicts this.
That may be but Israel is not comparable. We are a gigantic country with a ton of infected people around us every minute we're in public.
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Old 07-23-2021, 11:30 AM   #267
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Eh, every other study shows the opposite, I'm gonna guess the Israeli data is an outlier.
Every doctor or scientist whose lectures I watched contradicted what you said.

I'm going to stick with that because historically, natural infection is stronger than any vaccine against viruses.

The only vaccines that might be stronger than natural are designed to stop bacteria.
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I live in Springfield, Missouri, staylor26.

Springfield, Missouri.

There are two huge Covid ICUs in two very large hospitals packed full of people who took their chances.
I live in Key West, Florida, Direckshun.

Key West, FL.

I don’t know one person that’s been hospitalized or died of COVID, but I know many that have had it and been just fine. Our hospital has never been overrun and we’ve been open for the majority of the pandemic. Tourists have been flocking here for months on end.

I was very tired for a week straight and slept most of the time. I’ll take my chances.
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Umm...how about I do the job I'm hired for and they stay out of my personal health decisions?

You're advocating fascism...where unelected corporations take on the roll of personal governance...no ****ing thanks. Shit...they could fire me a week after I take the vaccine...then I'm on my own.

Being a football player is a specialized profession. They cant simply just go make the same living somewhere else..
You know, to say that you're a ****ing absolute NUTJOB would be redundant but the fact that the only people that agree with you are also NUTJOBS should be an indication that you're a ****ing NUTJOB.

And Facism? You and BEP and all the other loons in the DC call anyone and everyone that YOU disagree with a "Fascist". It's ****ing hilarious because you don't even understand the definition of the word.

As for the vaccine, you and the other butt****ing morons think you're exercising "Muh Freedoms" when in reality, you're ****ing WEAKENING this country, PERIOD. People used to accept their vaccinations because they STRENGTHENED this country. Every person in the military and every child that's attended school has been vaccinated for the GREATER GOOD of this country.

But refusing the vaccination with the intentions of showing off your "Freedom" is absolutely, outright ****ing STUPID. This country went through a terrible financial crisis in which 30 million were unemployed due to this pandemic and instead of getting vaccinated as your Civic Duty, half the country has refused in "protest", so instead of this insidious disease being at its end in this country, it's mutating and killing more and more unvaccinated people each and every day.

So gimme a ****ing break with your stupid "Fascism" bullshit, get vaccinated and shut the **** up.
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Every doctor or scientist whose lectures I watched contradicted what you said.

I'm going to stick with that because historically, natural infection is stronger than any vaccine against viruses.

The only vaccines that might be stronger than natural are designed to stop bacteria.
I'm speaking about vaccine efficacy and such, not natural infection, so my apologies. I believe I crossed up talking points.

Natural infection will give you so many epitopes to recognize along with strong cellular immunity. Depending on antigenic drift, it's not gonna be long durable but will hold up well, IMO.

But you also have to get sick to get that.
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