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Deberg_1990 · 12-02-2021, 07:06 AM

Discussssss

To our Fans:

I first want to thank you for your continued support of the great game of baseball. This past season, we were reminded of how the national pastime can bring us together and restore our hope despite the difficult challenges of a global pandemic. As we began to emerge from one of the darkest periods in our history, our ballparks were filled with fans; the games were filled with excitement; and millions of families felt the joy of watching baseball together.

That is why I am so disappointed about the situation in which our game finds itself today. Despite the league’s best efforts to make a deal with the Players Association, we were unable to extend our 26 year-long history of labor peace and come to an agreement with the MLBPA before the current CBA expired. Therefore, we have been forced to commence a lockout of Major League players, effective at 12:01am ET on December 2.

I want to explain to you how we got here and why we have to take this action today. Simply put, we believe that an offseason lockout is the best mechanism to protect the 2022 season. We hope that the lockout will jumpstart the negotiations and get us to an agreement that will allow the season to start on time. This defensive lockout was necessary because the Players Association’s vision for Major League Baseball would threaten the ability of most teams to be competitive. It’s simply not a viable option. From the beginning, the MLBPA has been unwilling to move from their starting position, compromise, or collaborate on solutions.

When we began negotiations over a new agreement, the Players Association already had a contract that they wouldn’t trade for any other in sports. Baseball’s players have no salary cap and are not subjected to a maximum length or dollar amount on contracts. In fact, only MLB has guaranteed contracts that run 10 or more years, and in excess of $300 million. We have not proposed anything that would change these fundamentals. While we have heard repeatedly that free agency is “broken” – in the month of November $1.7 billion was committed to free agents, smashing the prior record by nearly 4x. By the end of the offseason, Clubs will have committed more money to players than in any offseason in MLB history.

We worked hard to find compromise while making the system even better for players, by addressing concerns raised by the Players Association. We offered to establish a minimum payroll for all clubs to meet for the first time in baseball history; to allow the majority of players to reach free agency earlier through an age-based system that would eliminate any claims of service time manipulation; and to increase compensation for all young players, including increases in the minimum salary. When negotiations lacked momentum, we tried to create some by offering to accept the universal Designated Hitter, to create a new draft system using a lottery similar to other leagues, and to increase the Competitive Balance Tax threshold that affects only a small number of teams.

We have had challenges before with respect to making labor agreements and have overcome those challenges every single time during my tenure. Regrettably, it appears the Players Association came to the bargaining table with a strategy of confrontation over compromise. They never wavered from collectively the most extreme set of proposals in their history, including significant cuts to the revenue-sharing system, a weakening of the competitive balance tax, and shortening the period of time that players play for their teams. All of these changes would make our game less competitive, not more.

To be clear: this hard but important step does not necessarily mean games will be cancelled. In fact, we are taking this step now because it accelerates the urgency for an agreement with as much runway as possible to avoid doing damage to the 2022 season. Delaying this process further would only put Spring Training, Opening Day, and the rest of the season further at risk – and we cannot allow an expired agreement to again cause an in-season strike and a missed World Series, like we experienced in 1994. We all owe you, our fans, better than that.

Today is a difficult day for baseball, but as I have said all year, there is a path to a fair agreement, and we will find it. I do not doubt the League and the Players share a fundamental appreciation for this game and a commitment to its fans. I remain optimistic that both sides will seize the opportunity to work together to grow, protect, and strengthen the game we love. MLB is ready to work around the clock to meet that goal. I urge the Players Association to join us at the table.
Manfred

Read a letter from the Commissioner: https://t.co/P4gRGSlfsu pic.twitter.com/zI40uGLTni
— MLB (@MLB) December 2, 2021

Statement from the Major League Baseball Players Association: pic.twitter.com/34uIGf762W
— MLBPA Communications (@MLBPA_News) December 2, 2021

Ocotillo · 02-10-2022, 11:28 AM

Robert Manfred is optimistic that the regular season will begin on time pic.twitter.com/lMotc8y6Wq
— Talkin’ Baseball (@TalkinBaseball_) February 10, 2022

kstater · 02-10-2022, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo

Robert Manfred is optimistic that the regular season will begin on time pic.twitter.com/lMotc8y6Wq
— Talkin’ Baseball (@TalkinBaseball_) February 10, 2022

He also said that owning a team brings less return than the stock market....

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ChiefsCountry · 02-10-2022, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

He also said that owning a team brings less return than the stock market....

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Year to year revenue that is probably true but not when you sell the team.

ChiefsCountry · 02-10-2022, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo

Robert Manfred announced that MLB has agreed to a draft lottery and a universal DH pic.twitter.com/6hDbrXognb
— Talkin’ Baseball (@TalkinBaseball_) February 10, 2022

The BFIB are upset about not having double switches and strategy.

Titty Meat · 02-10-2022, 06:23 PM

Baseball fans turning into soccer fans lol

If MLB was smart… hear me out.

Figure it all out on Saturday. And just before the Super Bowl Kickoff on Sunday, announce live that an agreement has been reached.

Boom. Baseball won the Super Bowl.

eDave · 02-10-2022, 06:32 PM

Innings Festival is 2 weeks away. They better figure something out. I'm tired of shows getting cancelled.

WhawhaWhat · 02-10-2022, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Baseball fans turning into soccer fans lol

If MLB was smart… hear me out.

Figure it all out on Saturday. And just before the Super Bowl Kickoff on Sunday, announce live that an agreement has been reached.

Boom. Baseball won the Super Bowl.

100 million people will be watching the Super Bowl which means that nobody will know that baseball announced anything.

MarkDavis'Haircut · 02-11-2022, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo

Baseball Twitter is so gross. Baseball writers are easily the worst segment of the sports media universe.

I feel you about the feeling of the Royals being unable to keep a generational talent. Even though I'm not a fan of these teams, I got bummed when the Indians lost Francisco Lindor, the Nationals lost Bryce Harper, the Diamondbacks lost Paul Goldschmidt, the Rockies traded Nolan Arenado, the Marlins lost Giancarlo Stanton. I root for every market team to keep their homegrown star.

It's going to be sad when the Athletics trade Matt Chapman and Matt Olson this spring.

Baseball writers are the most self-righteous and cloying of the lot.

MarkDavis'Haircut · 02-11-2022, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo

Robert Manfred announced that MLB has agreed to a draft lottery and a universal DH pic.twitter.com/6hDbrXognb
— Talkin’ Baseball (@TalkinBaseball_) February 10, 2022

Draft lottery and universal DH.

Baseball keeps killing my interest in the sport.

Jerm · 02-11-2022, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Baseball fans turning into soccer fans lol

If MLB was smart… hear me out.

Figure it all out on Saturday. And just before the Super Bowl Kickoff on Sunday, announce live that an agreement has been reached.

Boom. Baseball won the Super Bowl.

Hmmmmm…..

If MLB was smart… hear me out.

Figure it all out on Saturday. And just before the Super Bowl Kickoff on Sunday, announce live that an agreement has been reached.

Boom. Baseball won the Super Bowl.
— Ben Verlander (@BenVerlander) February 10, 2022

dlphg9 · 02-11-2022, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP

Draft lottery and universal DH.

Baseball keeps killing my interest in the sport.

So you're against universal DH?

I guess it makes sense since you are a Raiders fan, so you're reeruned.

Titty Meat · 02-11-2022, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm

Hmmmmm…..

If MLB was smart… hear me out.

Figure it all out on Saturday. And just before the Super Bowl Kickoff on Sunday, announce live that an agreement has been reached.

Boom. Baseball won the Super Bowl.
— Ben Verlander (@BenVerlander) February 10, 2022

Yes I was quoting his tweet dipshit. I myself would never be dumb enough to claim a dying sport such as baseball would be able to challenge the super bowl. They can't even beat out pre season games

MarkDavis'Haircut · 02-11-2022, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

So you're against universal DH?

I guess it makes sense since you are a Raiders fan, so you're reeruned.

Grew with the NL. I prefer baseball where every player fields and hits in a game.

Not interested in some old fat guy extending his career.

Jerm · 02-11-2022, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Yes I was quoting his tweet dipshit. I myself would never be dumb enough to claim a dying sport such as baseball would be able to challenge the super bowl. They can't even beat out pre season games

Maybe you should include that then dipshit….

Nice try though.

Titty Meat · 02-11-2022, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

Maybe you should include that then dipshit….

Nice try though.

It's not my fault you're too stupid to see that it was copied and pasted not embeded tard

12-02-2021, 07:06 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $24454	The MLB lockout thread Discussssss To our Fans: I first want to thank you for your continued support of the great game of baseball. This past season, we were reminded of how the national pastime can bring us together and restore our hope despite the difficult challenges of a global pandemic. As we began to emerge from one of the darkest periods in our history, our ballparks were filled with fans; the games were filled with excitement; and millions of families felt the joy of watching baseball together. That is why I am so disappointed about the situation in which our game finds itself today. Despite the league’s best efforts to make a deal with the Players Association, we were unable to extend our 26 year-long history of labor peace and come to an agreement with the MLBPA before the current CBA expired. Therefore, we have been forced to commence a lockout of Major League players, effective at 12:01am ET on December 2. I want to explain to you how we got here and why we have to take this action today. Simply put, we believe that an offseason lockout is the best mechanism to protect the 2022 season. We hope that the lockout will jumpstart the negotiations and get us to an agreement that will allow the season to start on time. This defensive lockout was necessary because the Players Association’s vision for Major League Baseball would threaten the ability of most teams to be competitive. It’s simply not a viable option. From the beginning, the MLBPA has been unwilling to move from their starting position, compromise, or collaborate on solutions. When we began negotiations over a new agreement, the Players Association already had a contract that they wouldn’t trade for any other in sports. Baseball’s players have no salary cap and are not subjected to a maximum length or dollar amount on contracts. In fact, only MLB has guaranteed contracts that run 10 or more years, and in excess of $300 million. We have not proposed anything that would change these fundamentals. While we have heard repeatedly that free agency is “broken” – in the month of November $1.7 billion was committed to free agents, smashing the prior record by nearly 4x. By the end of the offseason, Clubs will have committed more money to players than in any offseason in MLB history. We worked hard to find compromise while making the system even better for players, by addressing concerns raised by the Players Association. We offered to establish a minimum payroll for all clubs to meet for the first time in baseball history; to allow the majority of players to reach free agency earlier through an age-based system that would eliminate any claims of service time manipulation; and to increase compensation for all young players, including increases in the minimum salary. When negotiations lacked momentum, we tried to create some by offering to accept the universal Designated Hitter, to create a new draft system using a lottery similar to other leagues, and to increase the Competitive Balance Tax threshold that affects only a small number of teams. We have had challenges before with respect to making labor agreements and have overcome those challenges every single time during my tenure. Regrettably, it appears the Players Association came to the bargaining table with a strategy of confrontation over compromise. They never wavered from collectively the most extreme set of proposals in their history, including significant cuts to the revenue-sharing system, a weakening of the competitive balance tax, and shortening the period of time that players play for their teams. All of these changes would make our game less competitive, not more. To be clear: this hard but important step does not necessarily mean games will be cancelled. In fact, we are taking this step now because it accelerates the urgency for an agreement with as much runway as possible to avoid doing damage to the 2022 season. Delaying this process further would only put Spring Training, Opening Day, and the rest of the season further at risk – and we cannot allow an expired agreement to again cause an in-season strike and a missed World Series, like we experienced in 1994. We all owe you, our fans, better than that. Today is a difficult day for baseball, but as I have said all year, there is a path to a fair agreement, and we will find it. I do not doubt the League and the Players share a fundamental appreciation for this game and a commitment to its fans. I remain optimistic that both sides will seize the opportunity to work together to grow, protect, and strengthen the game we love. MLB is ready to work around the clock to meet that goal. I urge the Players Association to join us at the table. Manfred Read a letter from the Commissioner: https://t.co/P4gRGSlfsu pic.twitter.com/zI40uGLTni — MLB (@MLB) December 2, 2021 Statement from the Major League Baseball Players Association: pic.twitter.com/34uIGf762W — MLBPA Communications (@MLBPA_News) December 2, 2021
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