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Old 02-01-2022, 02:58 PM  
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Brian Flores suing the NFL



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Old 02-01-2022, 06:12 PM   #256
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That is an opinion and a ridiculous/nonsensical one at that.

You’re smarter than this.
I’m just posting what’s out there, man.

Why are dudes like Joe Judge getting hired when Bienemy and Flores aren’t?

You can claim that those teams are stupid but one of those teams is now caught in the crosshairs.
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Old 02-01-2022, 06:12 PM   #257
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Also, the Lions, Bears, and Vikings have ALL had black HCs in the last decade.

Again, ridiculous and nonsensical.
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Old 02-01-2022, 06:13 PM   #258
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So those owners have no problem hiring a black GM, but a black HC is deal breaker?

Ridiculous and nonsensical.

Also, they told these black GMs not to hire a black HC? That’s pretty cowardly that they won’t speak up about such an injustice.
There's what, 3 black GM's?

Good Christ, man - there have been roughly 15-ish black coordinators on teams over the last two years. ONE has been hired for a HC job out of like 16 openings.

And that dude was fired after winning 4 games with a roster most people thought wouldn't win a single game.

If you don't want to use "racism" as the reason, fine, whatever - but it's pretty obvious that there's a problem with NFL hiring practices when you see white retreads and coordinators get nearly every job when there are black coordinators that are just as, if not more qualified.
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Old 02-01-2022, 06:13 PM   #259
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We are focusing on the wrong thing guys. An owner actually tried to PAY a coach to lose. That's....not....good. Who else was paid to attempt to influence games?
See that really doesn't surprise me. I assume the bottom feeders of the league are in some sense, trying to lose. Their playing guys who suck to see what they can do. They aren't real motivated to win. That shit happens every year in the NBA. You want the high draft picks. If you don't like it, well make all 1-32 teams go into a lottery where performance is of no consequence to draft status.
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Old 02-01-2022, 06:13 PM   #260
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We are focusing on the wrong thing guys. An owner actually tried to PAY a coach to lose. That's....not....good. Who else was paid to attempt to influence games?
No it is not good. Not sure how that is a cause of action of a lawsuit. The owner offered be a 100,000 bonus to lose, turned him down....So I want paid.
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Old 02-01-2022, 06:14 PM   #261
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So? It wasn't a thing when the Colts 'Sucked for Luck?'... The NFL is just a network of good ole boys; just like all of the big businesses. Can't say anything else because it starts to get into the political realm...
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Gotta give credit to Flores and his lawyers. Filed the suit at the start of Black History Month, opened it with an MLK quote then name dropped Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, Frederick Douglass, Jackie Robinson and Mamie Till.
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Also, the Lions, Bears, and Vikings have ALL had black HCs in the last decade.

Again, ridiculous and nonsensical.
3 out of 32 doesn’t make it ridiculous.
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There's what, 3 black GM's?

Good Christ, man - there have been roughly 15-ish black coordinators on teams over the last two years. ONE has been hired for a HC job out of like 16 openings.

And that dude was fired after winning 4 games with a roster most people thought wouldn't win a single game.

If you don't want to use "racism" as the reason, fine, whatever - but it's pretty obvious that there's a problem with NFL hiring practices when you see white retreads and coordinators get nearly every job when there are black coordinators that are just as, if not more qualified.
I’m talking specifically about those situations and what they say about EB. Catch up.

And again, all 3 of those organizations have had a black HC in the last decade.
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3 out of 32 doesn’t make it ridiculous.
3 out of 32 over a TEN YEAR SPAN.
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And if we’re going based off of dynamics….I’d expect Detroit and Chicago to be fine with a black coach.
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If Bienemy is not getting interviews or hired because of anything other than race….then there would be leaks out there. Leaks about how it’s based on his past or on his horrible attitude.

Literally the only thing I’ve seen is that they don’t like the plan he comes up with in interviews. And I think I’ve seen one source say that.
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3 out of 32 doesn’t make it ridiculous.
I’m talking about EB, and those organizations also passing on him.

But let’s go through those organizations.

Chiefs had Herm.

Browns had Hue.

Bengals had Lewis.

Steelers and Tomlin.

Colts and Caldwell.

Raiders and Hue.

Jets had Herm and now Saleh. Bowles too.

Dolphins had Flores.

Texans had Culley.

Broncos had Joseph.

Chargers had Lynn.

I’m sure there are plenty more that I can’t think of off the top of my head.
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3 out of 32 over a TEN YEAR SPAN.


This isn’t remotely true. That number is much larger than 3.

I was specifically talking about 3 teams that have recently hired a black GM none of whom hired EB.
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I’m talking about EB, and those organizations also passing on him.

But let’s go through those organizations.

Chiefs had Herm.

Browns had Hue.

Steelers and Tomlin.

Colts and Caldwell.

Raiders and Hue.

Jets had Herm and now Saleh. Bowles too.

Dolphins had Flores.

Texans had Culley.

Broncos had Joseph.

Chargers had Lynn.

I’m sure there are plenty more that I can’t think of off the top of my head.
have to also consider that playing in the NFL is not a requirement to coach or be a GM, so your down to 13% of the population so 4.1 coaches or GM's would be average.
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