The #Chiefs have agreed to terms with WR Richie James

[Mr_Tomahawk]

https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/sta...076715009?s=20

The #Chiefs have agreed to terms with WR Richie James, source says. After a breakout season with the #Giants (57 catches for 569 yards and 4 TDs), James becomes a target for Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City.

— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) April 7, 2023

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

They haven't either because they didn't have to, or it literally took a bad bounce against them to prevent them from scoring 30+. I wouldn't bank on 'bad luck' being a consistent 12th defender for us every time we play them.

I'm just saying they're a really good team, offensively and defensively, and getting lucky every time we play them isn't a great strategy. I know Andy/Spags know that better than anyone, so I'm not worried.

The chiefs have chosen "Don't get your ass kicked by Trey Hendrickson repeatedly" as their response to Cincy's defense.

If it works out, it's a bigger impact than any single add/loss that the Bengals are gonna come up with this season, IMO.

OBJ was a MASSIVE problem against Cincy.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

They haven't either because they didn't have to, or it literally took a bad bounce against them to prevent them from scoring 30+. I wouldn't bank on 'bad luck' being a consistent 12th defender for us every time we play them.

I'm just saying they're a really good team, offensively and defensively, and getting lucky every time we play them isn't a great strategy. I know Andy/Spags know that better than anyone, so I'm not worried.

Nobody is banking on luck.

We're saying that it's possible the Bengals took a step back on defense. If they did, their entire strategy is going to change - it might HAVE to.

Their offense right now is built for balance, at least more balance than say the Chiefs or Bills. Burrow has never had to just flat out carry the team and when he's been called upon to do it, he's often done exactly what he did against us - make an unfathomable mistake at the worst possible time.

I'm not saying they cannot transition to a more imbalanced, passing-based offense. I'm saying they haven't proven they CAN and until they do, it's fair to question it.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The drop I'll give you.

The INT? Those happen on those deep throws. Maybe not always in as spectacular a fashion, but he threw to a covered guy and the ball got picked - that's gonna happen from time to time.

The tip to Williams was ridiculous. Should've gone down as an INC, maybe 8 times out of 10.

And then how about the extremely timely huge return by none other than Skyy Moore that probably was as instrumental to the W as the penalty Ossai gave to us that gave us the game?

Though, I read somewhere that Burrow realized as he threw it he should've thrown it underneath to whoever it was wide open for the first.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Nobody is banking on luck.

We're saying that it's possible the Bengals took a step back on defense. If they did, their entire strategy is going to change - it might HAVE to.

Their offense right now is built for balance, at least more balance than say the Chiefs or Bills. Burrow has never had to just flat out carry the team and when he's been called upon to do it, he's often done exactly what he did against us - make an unfathomable mistake at the worst possible time.

I'm not saying they cannot transition to a more imbalanced, passing-based offense. I'm saying they haven't proven they CAN and until they do, it's fair to question it.

100% concur. They probably will have t change how they play defense, just a question of how much.

And Joe has not had to just carry his team on his shoulders, yet. I'm not concerned that he won't be able to, but he hasn't had to so far.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

The tip to Williams was ridiculous. Should've gone down as an INC, maybe 8 times out of 10.

And then how about the extremely timely huge return by none other than Skyy Moore that probably was as instrumental to the W as the penalty Ossai gave to us that gave us the game?

Though, I read somewhere that Burrow realized as he threw it he should've thrown it underneath to whoever it was wide open for the first.

In law an analysis of foreseeability isn't based on exactly HOW an outcome came about, but whether or not that outcome itself would be reasonably foreseeable.

Is it foreseeable that a rookie is gonna tip a pass to another rookie for an int? No, not really. But is it foreseeable that when you take a deep shot to a covered player who's running into safety help that the ball might get picked? Yeah, of course it is.

Then if you want to get into punt returns and penalties - fine, you do you. But I'm disinclined to relitigate that game. I mean Patrick Mahomes essentially gifted them at least a 10 point swing when he simply forgot how to football for a play and just kinda threw the ball on the ground. I mean c'mon - there's no sense in getting that granular in your analysis.

It was a tight game that ultimately swung on Burrow making a throw into coverage that he shouldn't have made.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

100% concur. They probably will have t change how they play defense, just a question of how much.

And Joe has not had to just carry his team on his shoulders, yet. I'm not concerned that he won't be able to, but he hasn't had to so far.

And that's really my only point.

The Bengals will probably need to change how they play offense and defense. We just can't assume that it will work because, to date, they haven't been able to do it with any consistency. Sure, it looks on paper like they have the horses to do it but I'm not going to take it all seriously until they actually demonstrate some capability.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's just the thing - the hallmark of Cinci's defense the last couple of years IS it's consistency.

Any amount of inconsistency introduces entropy in their system. It's not a top 10 defense, it's not a bottom 10 defense. It's a defense that consistently performs good enough to get a win.

Let's not forget that Joe Burrow, in the playoffs, has NEVER had to score 25 points or more to win a game.

Really wish Arizona hired their DC bc he’s an excellent DC. His defenses remind me a lot of Belichicks. It isn’t full of stars, but everyone knows their job and does it really well. They don’t make mistakes.

That’s what makes the Ossai penalty so shocking to me

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Really wish Arizona hired their DC bc he’s an excellent DC. His defenses remind me a lot of Belichicks. It isn’t full of stars, but everyone knows their job and does it really well. They don’t make mistakes.

That’s what makes the Ossai penalty so shocking to me

Yep.

[Chris Meck]

We didn't get lucky, they puckered.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

In law an analysis of foresseability isn't based on exactly HOW an outcome came about, but whether or not that outcome itself would be reasonably foreseeable.

Is it foreseeable that a rookie is gonna tip a pass to another rookie for an int? No, not really. But is it foreseeable that when you take a deep shot to a covered player who's running into safety help that the ball might get picked? Yeah, of course it is.

Then if you want to get into punt returns and penalties - fine, you do you. But I'm disinclined to relitigate that game. I mean Patrick Mahomes essentially gifted them at least a 10 point swing when he simply forgot how to football for a play and just kinda threw the ball on the ground. I mean c'mon - there's no sense in getting that granular in your analysis.

It was a tight game that ultimately swung on Burrow making a throw into coverage that he shouldn't have made.

All true. Especially the last point. Just saying, we didn't beat them so much as Burrow made the costliest mistake at the worst time. Regardless, they are the only team in the NFL that has a 3-1 record against us. And it wasn't luck. They're a really good team.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

All true. Especially the last point. Just saying, we didn't beat them so much as Burrow made the costliest mistake at the worst time. Regardless, they are the only team in the NFL that has a 3-1 record against us. And it wasn't luck. They're a really good team.

yeah, and when it mattered, they puckered. They wilted. They choked.

No shame. KC did it the year before in the AFCCG. It happens.

But I really think you have a tendency to 1)overestimate our rivals 2)underestimate their personnel losses/ changes , and 3)overestimate the losses in KC, while assuming that the younger players drafted/procured for this moment will fall short.

Buffalo is pretty ****ed, I think. Don't you?

Cincinnati is going to be tough again, but likely to take a step back defensively.

If I were a betting man, I'd bet Jacksonville comes on strong this year. Buffalo appears to me to be in a bit of disarray.

But it's the NFL. It's going to be that way. And we won't win every year, but we're a good bet to win it ANY year.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

All true. Especially the last point. Just saying, we didn't beat them so much as Burrow made the costliest mistake at the worst time. Regardless, they are the only team in the NFL that has a 3-1 record against us. And it wasn't luck. They're a really good team.

3-2.

Mahomes hate ****ed them to death them without Burrow in 2018

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

yeah, and when it mattered, they puckered. They wilted. They choked.

No shame. KC did it the year before in the AFCCG. It happens.

But I really think you have a tendency to 1)overestimate our rivals 2)underestimate their personnel losses/ changes , and 3)overestimate the losses in KC, while assuming that the younger players drafted/procured for this moment will fall short.

Buffalo is pretty ****ed, I think. Don't you?

Cincinnati is going to be tough again, but likely to take a step back defensively.

If I were a betting man, I'd bet Jacksonville comes on strong this year, might even snag that division from Buffalo, which appears to me to be in a bit of disarray.

But it's the NFL. It's going to be that way. And we won't win every year, but we're a good bet to win it ANY year.

They "puckered. They wilted. They choked." Once. One time out of four. If we were going to use probability, that means that we have about a 25% chance of beating them in our next meeting.

I'm not actually suggesting that's accurate, but any podcaster could, and some probably already are.

My point is that of any NFL team the Chiefs have faced in the Mahomes era, CIN is the one to worry about. Not BUF, because their coaching isn't nearly on the same level. Not LAC, because again the coaching. Not PHI, though I guess a case could be made.

It's CIN. They have made it apparent that they have the best coaching in the AFC, outside of KC. And they have a really good QB and receivers. And they have one of the best DLs in the AFC.

And they've beaten the Chiefs three times out of four.


So, maybe you're (and others) the one not taking them seriously enough? Because they lost two safeties? Do they have a great DL? a good set of LBs? Good CBs?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

3-2.

Mahomes hate ****ed them to death them without Burrow in 2018

Lol, okay.

How would that game have gone if Henne had been under center?

unless we're expecting the next ten matchups between these two teams to not include Burrow, I don't think we have to count that one time.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

They "puckered. They wilted. They choked." Once. One time out of four. If we were going to use probability, that means that we have about a 25% chance of beating them in our next meeting.

I'm not actually suggesting that's accurate, but any podcaster could, and some probably already are.

My point is that of any NFL team the Chiefs have faced in the Mahomes era, CIN is the one to worry about. Not BUF, because their coaching isn't nearly on the same level. Not LAC, because again the coaching. Not PHI, though I guess a case could be made.

It's CIN. They have made it apparent that they have the best coaching in the AFC, outside of KC. And they have a really good QB and receivers. And they have one of the best DLs in the AFC.

And they've beaten the Chiefs three times out of four.


So, maybe you're (and others) the one not taking them seriously enough? Because they lost two safeties? Do they have a great DL? a good set of LBs? Good CBs?

And Kelce fumbled, or we win that game in the regular season.

And Mahomes literally forgot how to play NFL QB for a half, with a what, 21-3 lead?

I mean it's not like they've just lined up and smoked us. They've been really tight games, decided by a bone head play on one side or the other. I do not expect that to change.

They're a damned good team, and if you **** around, you're going to lose.

We've got the baddest mother****er in the valley, we need fear no evil.