Alternate Reality Game 3: Starting From Scratch

[Rain Man]

General Concept: Take over a roster of NFL players and build/trade it through the draft, trades, and free agency.

Number of Players: Up to 32, maybe up to 40.

Basic Rules:

Go here: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...22#post5909122 I think pestilence has the latest in the thread header, but just in case, I pasted the latest in Post #12.

Draft Order - Veteran Draft

1 Chiefs=Good: Fort Wayne Dancers
2 bdeg: Philadelphia Battery Tossers
3 Mr. Arrowhead: Wichita Ballbashers (formerly Honolulu Hulas)
4 Chiefscafan: Los Angeles Purple Cobras
5 Kyle Delexus/MWagg72: Kansas City Kings
6 truebigdog: San Antonio Scorpions
7 rockio42: St. Louis Stallions
8 Ultra Peanut: Burlington Blue Barracudas
9 Fat Elvis: Cleveland Steamers
10 Pestilenceaf23: Tucson Twisters
11 cdcox: Greenville Marauders
12 Mile High Mania: Crested Butte-Holes (formerly Memphis Malt Liquor)
13 doomy3: Chattanooga Choo Choos
14 darosa88: Boise Beetdiggers
15 jwazzie: Wichita Wee Willies (formerly St. Louis Commodes)
16 Rain Man: Bradenton Super-Manatees
17 Burger: Knoxville Kiffins
18 KC King: Milwaukee Mud Ducks
19 Bowser: Atlantic City Hitmen


Divisions


East
2 bdeg: PBT
8 Ultra Peanut: BBB
9 Fat Elvis: CS
18 KC King: MMD
20 Bowser: ACH

Midwest
1 Chiefs=Good: FWD
5 Kyle Delexus: KCK
7 rockio42: SLS
15 jwazzie: WWW

South
11 cdcox: GM
12 Mile High Mania: CBH
13 doomy3: CCC
16 Rain Man: BSM
17 Burger: KK

West
3 Mr. Arrowhead: WB
4 Chiefscafan: LAPC
6 truebigdog: SAS
10 Pestilenceaf23: TTT
14 Darosa88: BBD

Edit: The clock is now 8 hours if you are not currently behind on your picks. If you are behind 1 pick, your clock will be 2 hours. If you are behind 2 or more picks, you will be skipped immedately, but will be notified. Owners are encouraged to leave a short list of preferred players with a trusted adult if they believe that they will not be immediately present for their pick.


The Remainder Round Draft Order is below, but I'm hiding it for the moment so people don't get confused with the regular draft order.

Spoiler!

Round 34 Draft Order: Remainder Round. You can make trades to change the order of these picks, but you cannot trade away your Remainder Round pick without replacing it.

1 rockio42: St. Louis Stallions
2 jwazzie: Wichita Wet Willies
3 doomy3: Chattanooga Choo Choos (NOW HELD BY LAPC)
4 Fat Elvis: Cleveland Steamers
5 Burger: Knoxville Kiffins
6 Mile High Mania: Crested Butte-Holes (NOW HELD BY SAS)
7 Darosa88: Boise Beetdiggers
8 KC King: Milwaukee Mud Ducks
9 Pestilenceaf23: Tucson Twisters (NOW HELD BY BSM)
10 Chiefscafan: Los Angeles Purple Cobras (NOW HELD BY CCC)
11 bdeg: Philadelphia Battery Tossers
12 Ultra Peanut: Burlington Blue Barracudas
13 cdcox: Greenville Marauders
14 Chiefs=Good: Fort Wayne Dancers
15 Rain Man: Bradenton Super-Manatees (NOW HELD BY TTT)
16 Kyle Delexus/MWagg72: Kansas City Kings
17 Bowser: Atlantic City Hitmen
18 Mr. Arrowhead: Wichita Ballbashers
19 truebigdog: San Antonio Scorpions (NOW HELD BY CBH)

First 30 rounds are here:

Spoiler!

Round 1
1. FWD - Peyton Manning, QB
2. PBT - Matt Ryan, QB
3. HH - Adrian Peterson, RB
4. LAPC - Chris Johnson, RB
5. KC Kings - Tom Brady, QB
6. SAS - Michael Turner, RB
7. SLS - Joe Thomas, LT
8. BBB - Larry Fitzgerald, WR
9. CS - Drew Brees, QB
10. TTT - Calvin Johnson, WR
11. GM - DeAngelo Williams, RB
12. MML - Matt Cassel, QB
13. CCC- Ben Roethlisberger, QB
14. BBD - Phillip Rivers, QB
15. SLC - Andre Johnson, WR
16. BSM - Demarcus Ware, OLB - Traded to BBD
17. KK - Patrick Willis, ILB
18. MMD - Shawne "roidman" Merriman, OLB - Traded to BBD
19. ACH - Tony Romo, QB

Round 2
19. ACH - Brian Westbrook, RB
18. MMD - Ed Reed, FS
17. KK - Aaron Rodgers, QB
16. BSM - Mario Williams, DE
15. SLC - Matt Forte, RB
14. BBD - Jared Allen, DE - Traded to BSM
13. CCC- Roddy White, WR
12. MML - Julius Peppers, DE/OLB
11. GM- Jonathan Vilma, LB
10. Tuscon Tittie Twisters- Jay Cutler, QB
9. CS - Randy Moss, WR
8. BBB - Eli Manning, QB
7. SLS - Jon Beason, ILB
6. SAS - Mathias Kiawanuka, DE
5. KCK - Osi Umenyiora, DE
4. LAPC - James Harrison OLB/DE
3. HH - Jerrod Mayo MLB
2. PBT - Haloti Ngata NT
1. FWD - Albert Haynesworth DT

Round 3
1. FWD - Justin Tuck DE
2. PBT - Ryan Clady, OT
3. HH - Joe Flacco, QB
4. LAPC - Terrell Suggs, OLB/DE
5. KCK - Vince Wilfork, NT
6. SAS - Carson Palmer, QB
7. SLS - Greg Jennings, WR
8. BBB - Richard Seymour, DE
9. CS - LaDainian Tomlinson, RB
10. TTT - Stephen Jackson, RB
11. GM - Chad Pennington, QB
12. MML - Kevin Williams, DT
13. CCC- Nnamdi Asomugha, CB
14. BBD - Reggie Wayne, WR, traded to MMD
15. SLC- Walter Jones, OT
16. BSM - Jake Long, OT
17. KK - Joey Porter, OLB
18. MMD - Marion Barber, HB
19. ACH - Troy Polamalu, SS

Round 4.
19. ACH - Dwight Freeney, DE
18. MMD - Donovan McNabb, QB
17. KK - Brandon Marshall, WR
16. BSM - Darrelle Revis, CB
15. STL Commodes- Brian Urlacher, ILB
14. BBD - Reggie Bush, RB/WR/KR/PR
13. CCC- Bob Sanders, SS
12. MML - Anquan Bolden, WR
11. GM - John Abraham, DE
10. TTT - DeMeco Ryans, ILB
9. CS - Shaun Rogers, DT
8. BBB - Casey Hampton, NT
7. SLS - LaRon Landry, FS
6. SAS - Branden Albert, OT
5. KCK - Braylon Edwards, WR
4. LAPC - Ray Lewis, ILB
3. HH- Eddie Royal, WR
2. PBT - Dwayne Bowe, WR
1. FWD - Steve Smith, WR

Round 5
1. FWD, Marcus Trufant, CB
2. PBT - Lamarr Woodley, OLB
3. HH- Antonio Cromartie, CB
4. LAPC - Trent Edwards, QB
5. KCK - Micheal Roos, OT
6. SAS - D'Qwell Jackson, ILB
7. SLS - Aaron Kampman, DE
8. BBB - Karlos Dansby, ILB
9. CS - Terrell Owens, WR
10. TTT - Marques Colston, WR
11. GM - Wes Welker, WR
12. MML - TJ Houshmandzadeh, WR
13. CCC- Maurice Jones-Drew, RB
14. BBD - Asante Samuel, CB, traded to MMD
15. SLC - Chad Ocho Cinco, WR
16. BSM - Champ Bailey, CB
17. KK - Charles Woodson, CB
18. MMD - Lee Evans WR
19. ACH - Steve Breaston, WR

Round 6.
19. ACH - Derrick Johnson, ILB
18. MMD - Anthony Gonzalez WR
17. KK - Ted Ginn Jr. Wr
16. BSM - Clinton Portis, HB
15. SLC - Tony Gonzales, TE
14. BBD - Jason Peters, OT - Traded to CCC
13. CCC- Antonio Gates, TE
12. MMLs - Brandon Jacobs, RB
11. GM - Michael Griffin, S
10. TTT - Jason Witten, TE
9. CS- Chris Samuels, OT
8. BBB - Cortland Finnegan, CB
7. SLS - Darnell Dockett, UT
6. SAS - DeSean Jackson, WR
5. KCK - Frank Gore, RB
4. LAPC - John Henderson, DE/DT
3. HH - Alex Brown, DE
2. PBT - Jay Ratliff, DE
1. FWD - Oshiomogho Atogwe, FS

Round 7
1. FWD - Lance Briggs, OLB
2. PBT - Shaun Phillips, OLB
3. HH - Santonio Holmes, WR
4. LAPC - Bart Scott, ILB
5. KCK - Devin Hester, WR,KR,PR
6. SAS - Domonique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB
7. SLS - Ronnie Brown, HB
8. BBB - Steve Slaton, HB
9. CS - Julian Peterson, OLB
10. TTT - Jordan Gross, LT
11. PBT - Glenn Dorsey, DE
12. MML - Marcus McNeil, LT
13. CCC- Trent Cole, OLB/DE
14. BBD - Leodis McKelvin, CB - Traded to CCC
15. SLC - Kyle Vanden Bosch, DE
16. BSM - Jammal Brown, OT
17. KK - Chris Long, DE
18. MMD - Robert Mathis, DE
19. ACH - Bryant McKinnie ,OT

Round 8
19. ACH - Jamal Williams, NT
18. MMD - Bradie James, ILB - Traded to BBD, then MMD
17. KK - Shaun Ellis, DE
16. BSM - Tommie Harris, DT
15. SLC - Nick Mangold, C
14. BBD - Keith Rivers, LB, trade to BSM
13. CCC- Ty Warren, DT/DE
12. MML - Kris Jenkins, NT - Traded to BBD
11. GM - Dallas Clark, TE
10. TTT - Rashean Mathis, CB
9. CS - Flozell Adams, OT
8. SLS - Kellen Winslow, TE
7. SLS - Amobi Okoye, NT
6. TTT - Gaines Adams, DE
5. KCK - Barrett Ruud, ILB
4. LAPC - Dustin Keller, TE
3. CCC- A.J. Hawk, LB (Via Trade with Sully)
2. GM - Andre Goodman, CB
1. LAPC - WR Antonio Bryant
Round 9
1. FWD - DT Marcus Stroud
2. PBT - Darren McFadden, RB
3. HH - Ryan Diem, OT
4. CCC- Ernie Sims, LB
5. TTT - Kenny Phillips, FS
6. SAS - Chad Greenway, OLB
7. BBB - D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT
8. BBB - Vincent Jackson, WR
9. CS - Steve Hutchinson, G
10. MML - Greg Olsen, TE
11. GM - Jon Stinchcomb, OT
12. MML - Roy Williams, WR
13. TTT - Thomas Howard, OLB
14. BBD - Bernard Berrian, WR
15. SLC - Devery Henderson, WR
16. BSM - Adrian Wilson, SS
17. KK - Ryan Grant, RB
18. PBT - Corey Webster, CB
19. ACH - Hines Ward, WR
Round 10
19. ACH - DeAngelo Hall, CB
18. BSM - Chris Snee, G
17. KK - Levi Brown, LT
16. LAPC - Donald Penn, LT
15. SLC - Jake Delhomme, QB
14. BBD - Rocky Bernard, DT, trade to ACH
13. TTT - Lofa Tatupu, LB
12. TTT - Sedrick Ellis, DT
11. GM - DJ Williams, OLB
10. KCK - Terrence Newman, CB
9. MML - Matt Schaub, QB
8. SLS - Ron Bartell, CB
7. SLS - Leroy Hill, OLB
6. MML - Kevin Smith, RB
5. KCK - David Stewart, RT
4. MML - Kirk Morrison, LB
3. HH - Marshall Yanda, G
2. PBT - Jonathan Stewart, RB
1. FWD - David Harris, ILB
Round 11
1. PBT - Kerry Rhoades, S
2. PBT - Carlos Rogers - CB
3. HH - Dusty Dvoracek, DT
4. CCC- Jared Gaither, LT
5. KC Kings - James Farrior, ILB
6. SAS - Eric Weddle, S
7. BBB - Nick Collins, S
8. BBB - Chris Canty, DE
9. CS - Alan Faneca, G
10. TTT - Jerricho Cotchery, WR
11. GM - Justin Smith, DE
12. LAPC - Antrelle Rolle, FS
13. LAPC - Brandon Meriweather , SS
14. BBD - Nick Barnett, ILB, trade to BSM
15. SLC - Brian Waters, G
16. BSM - Kurt Warner, QB
17. KK - Donald Driver, WR
18. MMD - Chris Horton, SS
19. ACH - Dan Koppen, C
Round 12
19. ACH - Erik Coleman, FS
18. MMD - Freddy Keiaho, OLB
17. KK - Chris Hope, S
16. BSM - Santana Moss, WR
15. LAPC - Dunta Robinson, CB
14. BBD - Leonard Davis, OG
13. CCC- Chris Gamble, CB
12. MML - Curtis Lofton, MLB
11. GM - Jason Brown, C
10. TTT - Marshawn Lynch, RB
9. MML - Richard Marshall, CB
8. BBB - Adalius Thomas, OLB
7. SLS - Jeff Otah, RT
6. TTT - Duane Brown, LT
5. TTT - Jeff Faine, C
4. CCC- Aqib Talib, FS
3. HH - Broderick Bunkley, DT
2. PBT - Lawrence Timmons, ILB
1. FWD - Joe Staley, LT
Round 13
1. FWD - Owen Daniels, TE
2. PBT - Vernon Davis, TE
3. HH - Stacey Andrews, RT
4. LAPC - Brandon Flowers, CB
5. KC Kings - Ellis Hobbs, CB
6. SAS - Paul Pozluzny, ILB
7. MML - Gibril Wilson, S
8. BBB - Parys Haralson, OLB
9. CS - Andre Gurode, C
10. MML - Charles Tillman, CB
11. GM - Will Allen, CB
12. TTT - Leon Hall, CB
13. CCC - Shawn Andrews, OG/OT
14. BBD - Antoine Bethea, FS - traded to KC Kings
15. SLC - Yeremiah Bell, SS
16. BSM - Laveranues Coles, WR
17. KK - Davin Joseph, G
18. BSM - Brandon Mebane, DT
19. ACH - Antonio Pierce, MLB
Round 14
19. ACH - Larry Johnson, RB
18. MMD - Will Smith, DE
17. KK - Ben Grubbs, OG
16. BSM - Chris Cooley, TE
15. CCC - Luis Castillo, DE/DT
14. BBD - Tony Ugoh, LT, traded to MMD
13. BBD - Ken Hamlin, FS
12. TTT - Cliff Avril, DE
11. GM - Greg Ellis, DE
10. CCC - Adam Carriker, DT
11. FWD - Felix Jones, RB
8. TTT - Reggie Nelson, FS
7. SLC - Daryl Smith, LB
6. SAS - Ryan Kalil, OC
5. KCK - Cullen Jenkins, DE
4. SLC - Larry Foote, MLB
3. HH - Kamerion Wimbley, OLB
2. PBT - Thomas Davis, OLB
1. FWD - Patrick Kerney, DE
Round 15
1. FWD - Nate Clements, CB
2. TTT - Mike Patterson, DT
3. HH - Sheldon Brown, CB
4. SLC - Bertrand Berry, DE
5. BBD - Quentin Jammer, CB
6. SAS - Justin Blaylock, G
7. SLS - Channing Crowder, MLB
8. BBB - Vernon Carey, OT
9. MML - Stephen Cooper, ILB
10. SLS - Jahri Evans, RG
11. CCC - Pierre Thomas, RB
12. SLS - Tanard Jackson, FS
13. CCC - Derrick Harvey, DE
14. BSM - Kris Dielman, G
15. SLC - Ronde Barber, CB
16. TTT - Elvis Dumervil, DE
17. KK - Zach Miller, TE
18. BBD - Logan Mankins, G
19. ACH - Donnie Avery, WR
Round 16
19. ACH - Willie Colon - RT
18. MMD - Antoine Cason, CB
17. KK - Jason Jones, DT
16. BBD - David Diehl, LT
15. SLC - Barry Cofield, NT
14. BSM - Jarrad Page, FS
13. BBD - Antoine Winfield - CB
12. MML - Roman Harper, S
11. GM - Chester Pitts, G
10. PBT - Jeremy Trueblood, RT
9. FWD - Aaron Sears, G
8. BBB - Nick Hardwick, C
7. SLS - Kelvin Hayden, CB
6. MML - Olin Kreutz, C
5. KCK - Todd Herremans, OG
4. LAPC - Nate Washington, WR
3. HH - Kawika Mitchell, OLB
2. PBT - Harvey Dahl, G
1. FWD - Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB
Round 17
1. FWD - Lance Moore, WR
2. PBT - Aaron Smith, DE
3. HH - Mark Bradley, WR
4. LAPC - Josh Cribbs, WR/KR/PR
5. KCK - Jake Scott, OG
6. SAS - Ryan Harris, RT
7. SLS - Vince Manuwai, G
8. BBB - Terrence McGee, CB/KR
9. TTT - Carl Nicks, LG
10. PBT - Martellus Bennett, TE
11. CCC - Shaun O'Hara, C
12. SAS - Jamaal Anderson, DE
13. CCC - Stewart Bradley, ILB
14. MML - Ray Edwards, DE
15. SLC - Eric Barton, LB
16. BSM - Leon Washington, RB/KR/PR
17. KK - Orlando Pace, LT
18. BBD - Thomas Jones, RB
19. BBD - Matt Birk, C
Round 18
19. ACH- Lito Sheppard, CB
18. BBD - Kevin Payne, SS
17. KK - Keith Bulluck, OLB
16. LAPC - Jeff Saturday, C
15. SLC - Ike Taylor, CB
14. BBD - John Carlson, TE
13. CCC - Chris Henry, WR
12. MML - Robert Gallery, G
11. CCC - Andre Carter, DE
10. SAS - Brandon Carr, CB
9. FWD - LenDale White, RB
8. BBB - Eric Steinbach, G
7. SLS - Jason Campbell, QB
6. SAS - Brady Popinga, OLB
5. KCK - Kevin Walter, WR
4. LAPC - Brett Favre, QB
3. HH - Jamaal Jackson, C
2. GM- Le'Ron McClain, FB
1. TTT - Brady Quinn, QB
Round 19
1. FWD - Michael Jenkins, WR
2. PBT - Chris Houston, DB
3. HH - Quinten Mikell, FS
4. BBD - Langston Walker, OT
5. KCK - Derrick Ward, RB
6. SAS - Steve Smith, WR
7. SLS - Justin Gage, WR
8. SLS - Darren Sproles, RB
9. FWD - E.J. Henderson, LB
10. BSM - Stephen Gostkowski, K
11. GM - Domenick Hixon WR
12. MML - Peyton Hillis, FB
13. CCC - Kyle Orton, QB
14. BBD - Will Witherspoon, ILB
15. SLC - Ryan Clark, FS
16. MML - Darryl Tapp, RDE
17. KK - Nick Folk, K
18. MMD - Tony Brown, DT
19. ACH - Charles Grant, DE

Round 20
19. MML - Zach Diles, OLB/SLB
18. MMD - Nick Kaczur, OT
17. KK - Brandon McDonald, CB
16. TTT - Eric Wright, CB
15. SLC - Sean Locklear, OT
14. LAPC - Rob Bironas, K
13. CCC - Travelle Wharton, OG
12. MML - Chris Kuper, RG
11. GM - Chris Williams, OT
10. SAS - Jim Leonhard, SS
9. FWD - Eric Winston, RT
8. BBB - Visanthe Shiancoe, TE
7. SLS - Darren Howard, DE
6. SAS - Daryn Colledge, RG
5. KCK - Calvin Pace, OLB
4. MML - Mason Crosby, K
3. HH - Willie Parker, RB
2. TTT - Deuce Lutui, RG
1. FWD - Mike Pollak, OG/C
Round 21
1. PBT - Anthony Spencer, OLB
2. PBT - Robert Meacham, WR
3. WB - Matt Hasselbeck, QB
4. CCC - Manny Lawson, DE/OLB
5. KCK - Corey Williams, DE
6. CBH - Jerious Norwood, KR/RB
7. BBB - Mark Clayton, WR
8. BBB - Chinedum Ndukwe, SS
9. BBD - Pat Williams, NT
10. TTT - Anthony Fasano, TE
11. GM - Pat Sims, NT
12. LAPC - Trevor Pryce, DE
13. CCC - Kelly Gregg, DT
14. SAS - Johnny Jolly, NT
15. WWW - Justin Fargas, RB
16. BSM - Davone Bess, WR
17. KK - Sean Jones, S
18. MMD -Ben Claxton, C
19. ACH - Ben Leber - OLB

Round 22
19. ACH - Marcedes Lewis - TE
18. MMD - Stephen Neal , G
17. KK - Corey Redding, DT
16. BSM - Scott Fujita, OLB
15. WWW - Eugene Amano, OG
14. BBD - Brett Keisel, DE
13. CCC - Ray Rice, RB
12. LAPC - Jason Ferguson, DT
11. GM - Chris Harris, SS
10. CBH - Tommy Kelly, DT
9. CCC - Heath Miller, TE
8. TTT - Sam Baker, LT
7. SLS - Aaron Ross, CB
6. SAS - Atari Bigby, S
5. KCK - Bo Scaife, TE
4. BBB - Chester Taylor, RB
3. WB- Brandon Moore, OG
2. PBT - Nate Kaeding, K
1. FWD - Andrew Whitworth, OG

Round 23
1. FWD - Tyrell Johnson, S
2. PBT - Rashard Mendenhall, RB
3. WB - Aaron Schobel, DE
4. LAPC - Jamal Lewis
5. KCK - Josh Brown, K
6. SAS - Dustin Colquitt, P
7. SLS -Justin Hartwig, C
8. BBB - Pisa Tinoisamoa, LB
9. CCC - Derrick Dockery, OG
10. BSM -Joseph Addai, HB
11. GM - David Garrard, QB
12. TTT - Gosder Cherilus, RT
13. CBH - Anthony Collins, RT
14. BBD - Torry Holt, WR
15. WWW -Danny Clark, OLB
16. BSM - Dominic Raiola, C
17. KK - Justin Harrell, DT
18. MMD - Heath Evans , FB
19. ACH - Patrick Crayton, WR

Round 24
19 ACH - Rich Seubert, G
18 MMD - Jonathan Babineaux , DT
17 KK - Tavares Gooden, MLB
16 CCC - James Jones, WR
15 WWW - Shane Lechler, P
14 BBD - Bernard Pollard, SS
13 CCC - Donte Whitner - SS/FS
12 LAPC - Kareem McKenzie, RT
11 GM - Takeo Spikes, ILB
10 BBB - Chilo Rachal, OG
9 CCC - Scott Wells, C
8 BBB - Al Harris, CB
7 SLS - Chris Clemons, DE
6 SAS - Josh Morgan, WR
5 KCK - Mike Jenkins, CB
4 CBH - Jordy Nelson, WR
3 WB - Darren Sharper, FS
2 PBT - Terrell Thomas, FS
1 FWD - Justin Durant, OLB

Round 25
1 FWD - Calais Campbell, DE/DT
2 PBT - Brad Meester, C
3 WB - Deion Branch, WR
4 LAPC - Donnie Jones, P
5 KCK - Michael Johnson, SS
6 SAS - Brent Celek, TE
7 TTT - Earl Bennett, WR
8 TTT - John Sullivan, OC/OG
9 TTT - Rocky McIntosh, OLB
10 TTT - Jamaal Charles, RB/KR/PR
11 GM - Ahmad Bradshaw, RB
12 BBD - Kevin Boss, TE
13 CCC - Stephen Tulloch, MLB
14 LAPC - Tracy Porter, DB
15 WWW - Yamon Figurs, KR/PR/WR
16 CBH - Jeremy Shockey, TE
17 KK - Marc Bulger, QB
18 MMD - Amani Toomer, WR
19 ACH - Jacob Hester, FB

Round 26
19 ACH - Donald Thomas, RG
18 MMD - Tony Scheffler, TE
17 KK - Jason Spitz C/G
16 BBD - Jarret Johnson, OLB
15 WWW - David Akers, K
14 BBD - Cedrick Griffin, CB
13 CCC - Jeremy Zuttah, OG/OT
12 CBH - Gerald Hayes, ILB/MLB
11 GM - Jonathan Joseph, CB
10 TTT - Jacob Ford, DE
9 BBD - Matt Light, LT
8 BBB - Tramon Williams, CB
7 SLS -Clint Session, OLB
6 SAS - Mike Vick WR/PR/KR
5 KCK - Dwight Lowery, DB
4 LAPC - Aubrayo Franklin, NT
3 WB - Greg Jones, FB
2 PBT - Jake Grove, G
1 FWD - Nathan Vasher, CB

Round 27
1 FWD - James Butler, SS
2 PBT - Roscoe Parrish, WR/PR
3 WB - Zach Thomas, ILB
4 BBD - Ryan Lilja, G
5 BBD - Julius Jones, HB
6 SAS - Kendall Langford, DE
7 SLS - Jacob Bell, OG
8 BBB- Igor Olshansky, DE
9 BBD - Cedric Benson, HB
10 CBH - Domata Peko, DT
11 GM - Justin Smiley, G
12 BBD - Brian Dawkins, FS
13 CCC - Dawan Landry, SS
14 MMD - Casey Rabach, C
15 WWW - Tony Richardson, FB
16 BSM - Mike Scifres, P
17 KK - Deltha O'Neal, CB
18 MMD - Vince Young, QB
19 ACH - David Thornton - OLB

Round 28x
19 ACH - Phillip Buchanon - CB
18 MMD - Tarell Brown, Nickle
17 KK - Lousaka Polite, FB
16 MMD - Mike Brown, Safety
15 WWW - Rex Hadnot, G
14 BBD - Eugene Wilson, S
13 CCC - Phillip Merling, DE/DT
12 SAS - Sage Rosenfels, QB
11 GM - Trevor Scott, DE
10 TTT - Tank Tyler, DT
9 BBD - Robbie Gould, K
8 BBB - Gabe Watson, NT
7 SLS - Mike Karney, FB
6 SAS - Garrett Hartley, K
5 KCK - Sidney Rice, WR
4 BBD - Pierre Woods, LB
3 WB - Adewale Ogenleye, DE
2 TTT - Josh Beekman, OG
1 FWD - Lawrence Jackson, DE

Round 29
1 FWD - Madison Hedgecock, FB
2 TTT - Devin Thomas, WR
3 WB - Kentwan Balmer, DT
4 CCC - Kris Brown, K
5 KCK - Lawrence Vickers, FB
6 SAS - Owen Schmitt, FB
7 CCC - Jerome Harrison, RB
8 BBB - Alex Smith, QB
9 CS - Sebastian Janikowski, K
10 LAPC - Marcus Spears, DE
11 GM - Rashad Jeanty, LB
12 CBH - Chris Myers, C
13 CCC - Derrick Burgess, DE/OLB
14 BSM - London Fletcher-Baker, MLB
15 WWW - Byron Leftwich, QB
16 BSM - Matt Roth, DE
17 KK - Earnest Graham, HB
18 LAPC - Anthony Herrera, G
19 ACH - Neil Rackers, K

Round 30
19 ACH - Chris Kluwe, P
18 MMD - Craig Hentrich, P
17 KK - Brett Kern, P
16 BSM - Chansi Stuckey, WR
15 WWW - Jevon Kearse, DE
14 BSM - Matt Leinert, QB
13 CCC - Tamba Hali, DE/OLB
12 CBH - Akeem Jordan, OLB
11 GM - Gerald Sensabaugh, FS
10 BSM - Todd Heap, TE
9 CS - Dhani Jones, ILB
8 BBB - Ryan Longwell, K
7 SLS - Laurent Robinson, WR
6 SAS - Tim Hightower, RB
5 KCK - Samsom Satele, C
4 BSM - Marcus Harrison, DT
3 WB - Marc Colombo, RT
2 PBT - Vonta Leach, FB
1 FWD - Daniel Manning, KR/PR/FS

[Mile High Mania]

Hopefully, I didn't miss this selection earlier while I was out, but he appears to still be available. The guy showed great promise and solid production in 2008 and in the new offense... I think he's going to rock.

The MML select ... Peyton Hillis, FB

ChooChoos are up

Memphis Malt Liquor (22)
Matt Schaub, QB
Trent Edwards, QB
Anquan Boldin, WR
TJ Houshmandzadeh, WR
Roy Williams, WR
Greg Olsen, TE
Peyton Hillis, FB
Brandon Jacobs, RB
Kevin Smith, RB
Marcus McNeil, LT
Robert Gallery, LG
Olin Kreutz, C

Julius Peppers, DE/OLB
Kevin Williams, DT
Ray Edwards, LDE
Kirk Morrison, ILB
Stephen Cooper, ILB
Curtis Lofton, MLB
Richard Marshall, CB
Charles Tillman, CB
Gibril Wilson, S
Roman Harper, S


Round 16
3. Honolulu Hulas - (will pick when they arrive)

Round 17
1. Fort Wayne Dancers- Lance Moore, WR
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Aaron Smith, DE
3. Honolulu Hulas - (will pick when they arrive)
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Josh Cribbs, WR/KR/PR
5. KC Kings - Jake Scott, OG
6. san Antonio Scorpions - Ryan Harris, RT
7. St. Louis Stallions - Vince Manuwai, G
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Terrence McGee, CB/KR
9. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Carl Nicks, LG
10. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Martellus Bennett, TE
11. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Shaun O'Hara, C
12. San Antonio Scorpions - Jamaal Anderson, DE
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Stewart Bradley, ILB
14. Memphis Malt Liquors - Ray Edwards, DE
15. St. Louis Commodes - Eric Barton, LB
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Leon Washington, RB/KR/PR
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Orlando Pace, LT
18. Boise Beetdiggers - Thomas Jones, RB
19. Boise Beetdiggers - Matt Birk, C

Round 18
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Lito Sheppard, CB
18. Boise Beetdiggers - Kevin Payne, SS
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Keith Bulluck, OLB
16. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Jeff Saturday, C
15. St. Louis Commodes - Ike Taylor, CB
14. Boise Beetdiggers - John Carlson, TE
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Chris Henry, WR
12. Memphis Malt Liquor - Robert Gallery, G
11. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Andre Carter, DE
10. San Antonio Scorpions - Brandon Carr, CB
9. Fort Wayne Dancers - LenDale White, RB
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Eric Steinbach, G
7. St. Louis Stallions - Jason Campbell, QB
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Brady Popinga, OLB
5. Kansas City Kings - Kevin Walter, WR
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Brett Favre, QB
3. Honolulu Hulas - (will pick when they arrive)
2. Greenville Marauders- Le'Ron McClain, FB
1. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Brady Quinn, QB

Round 19
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Michael Jenkins, WR
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Chris Houston, DB
3. Honolulu Hulas- (will pick when they arrive)
4. Boise Beet Diggers - Langston Walker, OT (via trade with Cobras)
5. KC Kings - - (will pick when they arrive)
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Steve Smith, WR (not THE Steve Smith)
7. St. Louis Stallions - Justin Gage, WR
8. St. Louis Stallions - Darren Sproles, RB
9. Fort Wayne Dancers - E.J. Henderson, LB
10. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Stephen Gostkowski, K
11. Greenville Marauders - (will pick when they arrive)
12. Memphis Malt Liquor - Peyton Hillis, FB
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos
14. Boise Beetdiggers
15. St. Louis Commodes
16. Memphis Malt Liquors
17. Knoxville Kiffins
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
19. Atlantic City Hitmen

[Mile High Mania]

There are currently 6 Picks that are behind...

Hulas = 4
KC Kings = 1
Marauders = 1

[doomy3]

The Choo-Choos select Kyle Orton to back up Roethlisberger.

Round 16
3. Honolulu Hulas - (will pick when they arrive)

Round 17
1. Fort Wayne Dancers- Lance Moore, WR
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Aaron Smith, DE
3. Honolulu Hulas - (will pick when they arrive)
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Josh Cribbs, WR/KR/PR
5. KC Kings - Jake Scott, OG
6. san Antonio Scorpions - Ryan Harris, RT
7. St. Louis Stallions - Vince Manuwai, G
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Terrence McGee, CB/KR
9. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Carl Nicks, LG
10. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Martellus Bennett, TE
11. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Shaun O'Hara, C
12. San Antonio Scorpions - Jamaal Anderson, DE
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Stewart Bradley, ILB
14. Memphis Malt Liquors - Ray Edwards, DE
15. St. Louis Commodes - Eric Barton, LB
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Leon Washington, RB/KR/PR
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Orlando Pace, LT
18. Boise Beetdiggers - Thomas Jones, RB
19. Boise Beetdiggers - Matt Birk, C

Round 18
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Lito Sheppard, CB
18. Boise Beetdiggers - Kevin Payne, SS
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Keith Bulluck, OLB
16. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Jeff Saturday, C
15. St. Louis Commodes - Ike Taylor, CB
14. Boise Beetdiggers - John Carlson, TE
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Chris Henry, WR
12. Memphis Malt Liquor - Robert Gallery, G
11. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Andre Carter, DE
10. San Antonio Scorpions - Brandon Carr, CB
9. Fort Wayne Dancers - LenDale White, RB
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Eric Steinbach, G
7. St. Louis Stallions - Jason Campbell, QB
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Brady Popinga, OLB
5. Kansas City Kings - Kevin Walter, WR
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Brett Favre, QB
3. Honolulu Hulas - (will pick when they arrive)
2. Greenville Marauders- Le'Ron McClain, FB
1. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Brady Quinn, QB

Round 19
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Michael Jenkins, WR
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Chris Houston, DB
3. Honolulu Hulas- (will pick when they arrive)
4. Boise Beet Diggers - Langston Walker, OT (via trade with Cobras)
5. KC Kings - - (will pick when they arrive)
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Steve Smith, WR (not THE Steve Smith)
7. St. Louis Stallions - Justin Gage, WR
8. St. Louis Stallions - Darren Sproles, RB
9. Fort Wayne Dancers - E.J. Henderson, LB
10. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Stephen Gostkowski, K
11. Greenville Marauders - (will pick when they arrive)
12. Memphis Malt Liquor - Peyton Hillis, FB
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Kyle Orton, QB
14. Boise Beetdiggers - on the clock until 6:00 PM CST
15. St. Louis Commodes
16. Memphis Malt Liquors
17. Knoxville Kiffins
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
19. Atlantic City Hitmen

[Mile High Mania]

"run on Broncos ... run on Broncos... "

Hey, the Orton pick is good value here, definitely worth the selection with nice upside.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

"run on Broncos ... run on Broncos... "

Hey, the Orton pick is good value here, definitely worth the selection with nice upside.

Yeah, I hate to say it, but I think he will be pretty good in McDaniels' offense and will put up pretty big numbers. Plus, he's just a backup on this team with Roethlisberger already in the fold.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by doomy3

Yeah, I hate to say it, but I think he will be pretty good in McDaniels' offense and will put up pretty big numbers. Plus, he's just a backup on this team with Roethlisberger already in the fold.

Orton will be fine, like you said ... he's your backup, he is a starter and has a nice cast of weapons.

I wasn't targeting FB with the last pick until Rainman went Kicker... I changed my mind to kicker and then thought "Hmmm, there's only 1 or 2 FBs gone. And, if I can get a young guy that may do more than just block... bonus!" So, I went with Hillis.

This next pick is driving me crazy... there are 3 people that I want and can likely get any of them. Just not sure what is more valuable right now.

[darosa88]

Beetdiggers select Will Witherspoon - ILB - St. Louis.

[Mile High Mania]

Round 16
3. Honolulu Hulas - (will pick when they arrive)

Round 17
1. Fort Wayne Dancers- Lance Moore, WR
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Aaron Smith, DE
3. Honolulu Hulas - (will pick when they arrive)
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Josh Cribbs, WR/KR/PR
5. KC Kings - Jake Scott, OG
6. san Antonio Scorpions - Ryan Harris, RT
7. St. Louis Stallions - Vince Manuwai, G
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Terrence McGee, CB/KR
9. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Carl Nicks, LG
10. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Martellus Bennett, TE
11. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Shaun O'Hara, C
12. San Antonio Scorpions - Jamaal Anderson, DE
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Stewart Bradley, ILB
14. Memphis Malt Liquors - Ray Edwards, DE
15. St. Louis Commodes - Eric Barton, LB
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Leon Washington, RB/KR/PR
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Orlando Pace, LT
18. Boise Beetdiggers - Thomas Jones, RB
19. Boise Beetdiggers - Matt Birk, C

Round 18
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Lito Sheppard, CB
18. Boise Beetdiggers - Kevin Payne, SS
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Keith Bulluck, OLB
16. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Jeff Saturday, C
15. St. Louis Commodes - Ike Taylor, CB
14. Boise Beetdiggers - John Carlson, TE
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Chris Henry, WR
12. Memphis Malt Liquor - Robert Gallery, G
11. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Andre Carter, DE
10. San Antonio Scorpions - Brandon Carr, CB
9. Fort Wayne Dancers - LenDale White, RB
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Eric Steinbach, G
7. St. Louis Stallions - Jason Campbell, QB
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Brady Popinga, OLB
5. Kansas City Kings - Kevin Walter, WR
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Brett Favre, QB
3. Honolulu Hulas - (will pick when they arrive)
2. Greenville Marauders- Le'Ron McClain, FB
1. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Brady Quinn, QB

Round 19
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Michael Jenkins, WR
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Chris Houston, DB
3. Honolulu Hulas- (will pick when they arrive)
4. Boise Beet Diggers - Langston Walker, OT (via trade with Cobras)
5. KC Kings - - (will pick when they arrive)
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Steve Smith, WR (not THE Steve Smith)
7. St. Louis Stallions - Justin Gage, WR
8. St. Louis Stallions - Darren Sproles, RB
9. Fort Wayne Dancers - E.J. Henderson, LB
10. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Stephen Gostkowski, K
11. Greenville Marauders - (will pick when they arrive)
12. Memphis Malt Liquor - Peyton Hillis, FB
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Kyle Orton, QB
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Will Witherspoon, ILB
15. St. Louis Commodes - has until 9:05 cst
16. Memphis Malt Liquors
17. Knoxville Kiffins
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
19. Atlantic City Hitmen

[darosa88]

Updated.

Round 16
3. Honolulu Hulas - (will pick when they arrive)
Round 17
1. Fort Wayne Dancers- Lance Moore, WR
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Aaron Smith, DE
3. Honolulu Hulas - (will pick when they arrive)
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Josh Cribbs, WR/KR/PR
5. KC Kings - Jake Scott, OG
6. san Antonio Scorpions - Ryan Harris, RT
7. St. Louis Stallions - Vince Manuwai, G
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Terrence McGee, CB/KR
9. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Carl Nicks, LG
10. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Martellus Bennett, TE
11. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Shaun O'Hara, C
12. San Antonio Scorpions - Jamaal Anderson, DE
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Stewart Bradley, ILB
14. Memphis Malt Liquors - Ray Edwards, DE
15. St. Louis Commodes - Eric Barton, LB
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Leon Washington, RB/KR/PR
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Orlando Pace, LT
18. Boise Beetdiggers - Thomas Jones, RB
19. Boise Beetdiggers - Matt Birk, C

Round 18
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Lito Sheppard, CB
18. Boise Beetdiggers - Kevin Payne, SS
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Keith Bulluck, OLB
16. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Jeff Saturday, C
15. St. Louis Commodes - Ike Taylor, CB
14. Boise Beetdiggers - John Carlson, TE
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Chris Henry, WR
12. Memphis Malt Liquor - Robert Gallery, G
11. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Andre Carter, DE
10. San Antonio Scorpions - Brandon Carr, CB
9. Fort Wayne Dancers - LenDale White, RB
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Eric Steinbach, G
7. St. Louis Stallions - Jason Campbell, QB
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Brady Popinga, OLB
5. Kansas City Kings - Kevin Walter, WR
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Brett Favre, QB
3. Honolulu Hulas - (will pick when they arrive)
2. Greenville Marauders- Le'Ron McClain, FB
1. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Brady Quinn, QB

Round 19
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Michael Jenkins, WR
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Chris Houston, DB
3. Honolulu Hulas- (will pick when they arrive)
4. Boise Beet Diggers - Langston Walker, OT (via trade with Cobras)
5. KC Kings - - (will pick when they arrive)
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Steve Smith, WR (not THE Steve Smith)
7. St. Louis Stallions - Justin Gage, WR
8. St. Louis Stallions - Darren Sproles, RB
9. Fort Wayne Dancers - E.J. Henderson, LB
10. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Stephen Gostkowski, K
11. Greenville Marauders - (will pick when they arrive)
12. Memphis Malt Liquor - Peyton Hillis, FB
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Kyle Orton, QB
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Will Witherspoon, ILB
15. St. Louis Commodes - On the clock until 9:07 CST
16. Memphis Malt Liquors
17. Knoxville Kiffins
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
19. Atlantic City Hitmen

[Mile High Mania]

One more and then I'm up and I have my player targeted... let's go!!!

[jwazzie]

St. Louis Commodes select Ryan Clark, FS

[doomy3]

bdeg, can you go ahead and PM Burger that his pick is up...

[Mile High Mania]

Here we go...

MML select Darryl Tapp, DE (I believe he is available)

Memphis Malt Liquor (23)
Matt Schaub, QB
Trent Edwards, QB
Anquan Boldin, WR
TJ Houshmandzadeh, WR
Roy Williams, WR
Greg Olsen, TE
Peyton Hillis, FB
Brandon Jacobs, RB
Kevin Smith, RB
Marcus McNeil, LT
Robert Gallery, LG
Olin Kreutz, C

Julius Peppers, DE/OLB
Kevin Williams, DT
Ray Edwards, LDE
Darryl Tapp, RDE
Kirk Morrison, ILB
Stephen Cooper, ILB
Curtis Lofton, MLB
Richard Marshall, CB
Charles Tillman, CB
Gibril Wilson, S
Roman Harper, S

Round 16
3. Honolulu Hulas - (will pick when they arrive)
Round 17
1. Fort Wayne Dancers- Lance Moore, WR
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Aaron Smith, DE
3. Honolulu Hulas - (will pick when they arrive)
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Josh Cribbs, WR/KR/PR
5. KC Kings - Jake Scott, OG
6. san Antonio Scorpions - Ryan Harris, RT
7. St. Louis Stallions - Vince Manuwai, G
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Terrence McGee, CB/KR
9. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Carl Nicks, LG
10. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Martellus Bennett, TE
11. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Shaun O'Hara, C
12. San Antonio Scorpions - Jamaal Anderson, DE
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Stewart Bradley, ILB
14. Memphis Malt Liquors - Ray Edwards, DE
15. St. Louis Commodes - Eric Barton, LB
16. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Leon Washington, RB/KR/PR
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Orlando Pace, LT
18. Boise Beetdiggers - Thomas Jones, RB
19. Boise Beetdiggers - Matt Birk, C

Round 18
19. Atlantic City Hitmen - Lito Sheppard, CB
18. Boise Beetdiggers - Kevin Payne, SS
17. Knoxville Kiffins - Keith Bulluck, OLB
16. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Jeff Saturday, C
15. St. Louis Commodes - Ike Taylor, CB
14. Boise Beetdiggers - John Carlson, TE
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Chris Henry, WR
12. Memphis Malt Liquor - Robert Gallery, G
11. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Andre Carter, DE
10. San Antonio Scorpions - Brandon Carr, CB
9. Fort Wayne Dancers - LenDale White, RB
8. Burlington Blue Barracudas - Eric Steinbach, G
7. St. Louis Stallions - Jason Campbell, QB
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Brady Popinga, OLB
5. Kansas City Kings - Kevin Walter, WR
4. Los Angeles Purple Cobras - Brett Favre, QB
3. Honolulu Hulas - (will pick when they arrive)
2. Greenville Marauders- Le'Ron McClain, FB
1. Tucson Tittie Twisters - Brady Quinn, QB

Round 19
1. Fort Wayne Dancers - Michael Jenkins, WR
2. Philadelphia Battery Tossers - Chris Houston, DB
3. Honolulu Hulas- (will pick when they arrive)
4. Boise Beet Diggers - Langston Walker, OT (via trade with Cobras)
5. KC Kings - - (will pick when they arrive)
6. San Antonio Scorpions - Steve Smith, WR (not THE Steve Smith)
7. St. Louis Stallions - Justin Gage, WR
8. St. Louis Stallions - Darren Sproles, RB
9. Fort Wayne Dancers - E.J. Henderson, LB
10. Bradenton Super-Manatees - Stephen Gostkowski, K
11. Greenville Marauders - (will pick when they arrive)
12. Memphis Malt Liquor - Peyton Hillis, FB
13. Chattanooga Choo Choos - Kyle Orton, QB
14. Boise Beetdiggers - Will Witherspoon, ILB
15. St. Louis Commodes - Ryan Clark, FS
16. Memphis Malt Liquors - Darryl Tapp, RDE
17. Knoxville Kiffins
18. Milwaukee Mud ducks
19. Atlantic City Hitmen

[chiefscafan]

Good pick if I wasn't running a 3-4 he is one of the guys I would have looked at

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

Good pick if I wasn't running a 3-4 he is one of the guys I would have looked at

I'm running a blended 3/4 - 4/3 with a mix of 2/3/6... it's a new tricked up defense.