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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 01-26-2016, 04:52 PM   #2746
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Latos might be the biggest jackoff in baseball today. If he and Papelbon were ever on the same team, there's a good chance a hole in the earth would form due to the douche vacuum they would create.


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Old 01-26-2016, 04:57 PM   #2747
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Latos might be the biggest jackoff in baseball today. If he and Papelbon were ever on the same team, there's a good chance a hole in the earth would form due to the douche vacuum they would create.

Will Venable is past his prime but you could do worse as the LH side of a platoon. He has some nice power/speed tools and if you can pair him with a decent RH stick, you could probably get 600+ ABs of .770 OPS and 15 HRs/15SBs for your efforts.

We're not talking about a world-beater, but he'd could be a nice part on a winning team.
Lawrie will fight you and make you take it back. There can be only one... supreme jackoff in baseball.
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Old 01-26-2016, 05:17 PM   #2748
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Lawrie will fight you and make you take it back. There can be only one... supreme jackoff in baseball.
Can't get there. I know you Royals fans hate the guy as much as us Cardinals fans hated Johnny Cueto, but I love Lawrie as a competitor and would kill to have that on my team.

He's flamboyant and definitely a bro, but its in the same vein as Bryce Harper and I ****ing love Bryce Harper.

I get why Royals fans hate him, but he's not in the same universe as Papelbon and Latos.
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Old 01-26-2016, 06:07 PM   #2749
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**** Lawrie. He's a douche. Hosmer is the douchiest Royal and he's like half as douchey as Lawrie. Never go full douche.
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Old 01-26-2016, 06:11 PM   #2750
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**** Lawrie. He's a douche. Hosmer is the douchiest Royal and he's like half as douchey as Lawrie. Never go full douche.
Ventura is our biggest douche by a mile. Lawrie is a dirty player and a douche.
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Old 01-26-2016, 06:55 PM   #2751
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Ventura is our biggest douche by a mile. Lawrie is a dirty player and a douche.
There's also a good chance he's toxic in the clubhouse. The A's beat writer said trading away a "negative force" in the clubhouse was a priority this offseason. Mr. Lawrie was dealt later that month.
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Old 01-26-2016, 06:58 PM   #2752
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There's also a good chance he's toxic in the clubhouse. The A's beat writer said trading away a "negative force" in the clubhouse was a priority this offseason. Mr. Lawrie was dealt later that month.
Absolutely. It's pretty clear who he was talking about. Sorry Petro discussed it today on his show.
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Absolutely. It's pretty clear who he was talking about. Sorry Petro discussed it today on his show.
The A's subreddit was pretty much at a consensus that it was Lawrie (sad to see a folk hero fall to such lows). Though a few were crossing their fingers that it was Country Breakfast.
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That makes three organizations (Brewers, Blue Jays, A's) who have now dumped Lawrie, with his inability to get along with his teammates being a primary problem each time. "Lockerroom cancer" smoke has risen each time.

Just like Latos.
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That makes three organizations (Brewers, Blue Jays, A's) who have now dumped Lawrie, with his inability to get along with his teammates being a primary problem each time. "Lockerroom cancer" smoke has risen each time.

Just like Latos.
I don't understand GMs. Baseball GMs just don't seem to give a damn about it. They treat it like it doesn't matter because it's such an individual game (batter versus pitcher). 162 games is such a grind, though. The stress of dealing with just one or two shitheads is enormous because you basically live with each other.

The NFL GMs care much more about chemistry, but those guys can avoid one another for the most part. There are only 8 road games a year, so it's easier to just suck it up and geT through it.
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That makes three organizations (Brewers, Blue Jays, A's) who have now dumped Lawrie, with his inability to get along with his teammates being a primary problem each time. "Lockerroom cancer" smoke has risen each time.

Just like Latos.
Did you not read how the Cardinal fans not only told us how we are wrong about Lawrie, but they also gave an example about how they were wrong in a similar situation in the past?

How did we get so lucky to have the bfib come on this board to not only tell us when we are wrong, but to also be able to give us Cardinal history kessons in the process?
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Not only is Lawrie a huge douche, but he hasn't really lived up to being a highly touted prospect and high draft pick.
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That makes three organizations (Brewers, Blue Jays, A's) who have now dumped Lawrie, with his inability to get along with his teammates being a primary problem each time. "Lockerroom cancer" smoke has risen each time.

Just like Latos.
He ended up at the perfect organization for his personality.
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He ended up at the pitch-perfect organization for his personality.
I think our series with them this year is going to be really ****ing ugly.
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Did you not read how the Cardinal fans not only told us how we are wrong about Lawrie, but they also gave an example about how they were wrong in a similar situation in the past?

How did we get so lucky to have the bfib come on this board to not only tell us when we are wrong, but to also be able to give us Cardinal history kessons in the process?
Though the Cardinal fans were a bit insufferable with their "the Royals don't know how to wear winning" nonsense (Somehow they forgot the Pirates have cleared the benches 100 times in the past three years - and that the Cards got caught up in a fair share of those brawls). DJ is one of the best baseball minds of the planet. IMHO He's up there with Al and Duncan.

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