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Old 07-24-2021, 11:33 AM  
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Old 08-11-2021, 01:48 AM   #2746
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Honestly, I think WR is our second weakest position group next to LBers until Gay and Bolton get up to speed. If we lose Tyreek for any stretch of time, this may be the worst WR corps in the league.
I’m not sure why this is suddenly a big concern. Our WRs were considered really solid with Watkins on the roster, and he was out more often than not. We’re in basically the same situation but with Powell added to the mix (and potentially Callaway), plus likely an improved Hardman.

Overall, we have more receiving weapons than before, since it appears that Gray is going to add another option.

I wouldn’t have been opposed to adding another proven WR, but I don’t see it as a need. I think the staff talked to Hardman and made it clear that he needs to take it to the next level, and it seems like he is.
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Old 08-11-2021, 02:10 AM   #2747
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If we lose Tyreek for any stretch of time, this may be the worst WR corps in the league.
Maybe, but that’s the case for many teams in the league in regards to their #1 WR. Not to pick on birds specifically but go look at the WR depth charts of the Eagles, Falcons and Cardinals (just to name a few). Take away their number 1’s and see what your left with. Obviously it’s not a position of super deep strength like it is for say the Cowboys or the Buccaneers but as long as we have #15, we’re gonna be fine.
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Old 08-11-2021, 02:23 AM   #2748
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We played the 9ers a few pre seasons ago and I remember their D line kicking our ass. They've always been pretty deep at that position since Lynch took over. Not sure if thats the case or not this year but I fully expect our reserves to get handled and if going by the boards reactions regarding camp reports and individual drill videos I expect people to freak out.

In reality it means absolutely nothing and the game means next to nothing. Will be nice to see if some of the backups can perform and give us confidence about the depth. That's really all there is to take away from these pre season games.
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Old 08-11-2021, 03:33 AM   #2749
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Maybe, but that’s the case for many teams in the league in regards to their #1 WR. Not to pick on birds specifically but go look at the WR depth charts of the Eagles, Falcons and Cardinals (just to name a few). Take away their number 1’s and see what your left with. Obviously it’s not a position of super deep strength like it is for say the Cowboys or the Buccaneers but as long as we have #15, we’re gonna be fine.
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Old 08-11-2021, 04:28 AM   #2750
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Maybe, but that’s the case for many teams in the league in regards to their #1 WR. Not to pick on birds specifically but go look at the WR depth charts of the Eagles, Falcons and Cardinals (just to name a few). Take away their number 1’s and see what your left with. Obviously it’s not a position of super deep strength like it is for say the Cowboys or the Buccaneers but as long as we have #15, we’re gonna be fine.
I think that's it, but the Bucs is the one I look at enviously. Would rather our starters but their depth is nuts with Durden also now looking good. Could imagine there's v little drop off if someone goes down there. If Hill were out I agree scheming, the running game with the new O-line, and the possible emergence of Gray could mean we're less affected than others, but it's a big drop-off.

Think WR is the weakest area, followed by CB and DE - both could be very good if people step up, but on CB in particular we really don't know what we're getting with Hughes, Baker etc. Think next draft we need to swing much earlier on a WR and CB.
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Old 08-11-2021, 05:12 AM   #2751
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I think that's it, but the Bucs is the one I look at enviously. Would rather our starters but their depth is nuts with Durden also now looking good. Could imagine there's v little drop off if someone goes down there. If Hill were out I agree scheming, the running game with the new O-line, and the possible emergence of Gray could mean we're less affected than others, but it's a big drop-off.

Think WR is the weakest area, followed by CB and DE - both could be very good if people step up, but on CB in particular we really don't know what we're getting with Hughes, Baker etc. Think next draft we need to swing much earlier on a WR and CB.
That's a team built around a 43 year old QB. This is a team with a 26 year old QB. To keep our window open, we have to continually develop young, inexpensive talent. The only way to do that is play them. We'll be fine.
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Old 08-11-2021, 05:18 AM   #2752
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Really wouldn't be shocked to see Veach go ultra aggressive and try for Michael Thomas.
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Old 08-11-2021, 05:22 AM   #2753
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He had several reasons not to walk away from this team last year as well. We all know how that turned out.
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Really wouldn't be shocked to see Veach go ultra aggressive and try for Michael Thomas.
Get real. No chance in hell.
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Really wouldn't be shocked to see Veach go ultra aggressive and try for Michael Thomas.
I would be. It would be a waste of money in 2021. He wouldn't even grasp the offense for the most of the season.
We really NEED to stand pat and develop young talent.
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You have to trust your front office to draft good talent. Do you have to trust your coaching staff to develop that Talent. And you have to trust your process to keep your Championship window open. For what it's worth, barring injury, I think Clyde edwards-helaire will have about 20 touchdowns. This offense will be fine.
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That's a team built around a 43 year old QB. This is a team with a 26 year old QB. To keep our window open, we have to continually develop young, inexpensive talent. The only way to do that is play them. We'll be fine.
Yep, agree, but as you say you need to draft that talent as well. I very much doubt if we pick up a WR or CB next draft it's in the later rounds. I'd hope not.
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Yep, agree, but as you say you need to draft that talent as well. I very much doubt if we pick up a WR or CB next draft it's in the later rounds. I'd hope not.
Why would you think that? Does Veach's history tell you he ignores weaknesses? Are you sure Hughes and Baker can't play? Powell?

Don't you think with OL apparently solidified that other positions would move up the priority list next year?
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