***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

I don't care when it started.

70k died in 2 months and are still dying.

We all get that, you know 100K died of heart disease in the same time frame right? Another 50K every month following will die as well.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Our facility (food plant) has over 700 employees, closer to 800 with temporary employees, we have been operating 24/7 the whole time. We have been taking employees temperatures every day as they enter the building going on about 2 weeks now, we have had 1 person sent home for a fever. (wasn't Covid)

We have 25 cases in the county, with a 1 case increase in the last week. Lowes, Home Depot, Walmart, Sam's Club are all pretty damn busy along with every fast food drive through in town is absolutely packed at lunch. The metro area population is about 250K.

**Knocks on wood***

I've never thought treating SW Missouri like NYC made sense or even treating SW Missouri like STL or KC for that matter.

Fear makes some want to be told to hide under a rock and mock those that want to live life....kinda interesting

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

We all get that, you know 100K died of heart disease in the same time frame right? Another 50K every month following will die as well.

There's that contagious heart disease again...

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

We all get that, you know 100K died of heart disease in the same time frame right? Another 50K every month following will die as well.

Get back to me when you can catch heart disease from talking to someone.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Get back to me when you can catch heart disease from talking to someone.

And then give it to multiple other people.

[limested]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Get back to me when you can catch heart disease from talking to someone.

This thread is proof that stupidity is contagious.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

They deliberately try to confuse people.


Sorry you fell for it I guess.

1k new hospitalizations every day is a ton.

Here is the trend.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/unite...erica/new-york

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

We all get that, you know 100K died of heart disease in the same time frame right? Another 50K every month following will die as well.

I wonder what could have induced so many heart disease deaths during that time frame.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

We all get that, you know 100K died of heart disease in the same time frame right? Another 50K every month following will die as well.

If what some have said is true in that we have up to 30 million people who really have this then that puts the 70k number in a completely different perspective rightly or wrongly.

And that's my problem with this entire argument. People pick and chose what numbers they want to use and when based on the need of their argument.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Get back to me when you can catch heart disease from talking to someone.

Oh I get that but you keep throwing up numbers using the numbers as an impactful statement. 70K! in 2 months.

Yea well more people than that die every single month (for years now) from another illness. I mean you can see the point there correct?

Dead is dead.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

If what some have said is true in that we have up to 30 million people who really have this then that puts the 70k number in a completely different perspective rightly or wrongly.

And that's my problem with this entire argument. People pick and chose what numbers they want to use and when based on the need of their argument.

People are trying to attribute a black or white answer to something that doesn't have one hence why we all going in circles.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

April 8 IIRC.

We had 15k or something at that point

March 25th, actually.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by petegz28

If what some have said is true in that we have up to 30 million people who really have this then that puts the 70k number in a completely different perspective rightly or wrongly.

And that's my problem with this entire argument. People pick and chose what numbers they want to use and when based on the need of their argument.

Boom...

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

If what some have said is true in that we have up to 30 million people who really have this then that puts the 70k number in a completely different perspective rightly or wrongly.

And that's my problem with this entire argument. People pick and chose what numbers they want to use and when based on the need of their argument.

It doesn't change the fact that 70k died in 2 months. What other virus has done that lately?

What numbers have I picked and chosen?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by DaFace

March 25th, actually.

Even more impressive