***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

They still haven't said how many they tested actually were symptomatic.

It was hypothesized by Dr. Williams today that the virus was brought into the plant from someone in KC. But they aren't sure.

The article said 373 tested and all were asymptomatic. My point is if that is true then what is the ratio of symptomatic to asymptomatic?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Maybe. There's certainly been a lot of vitriol directed toward Costco for their mask rule that started today, though I always have trouble sifting through "article that pulls a bunch of tweets from a vocal minority to make a point" vs. "there really are a ton of people pissed off."

This story, as a Costco member, is insanely stupid, put on a mask to be respectful in public you dumb ****s, jesus christ.

Not every news story deserves a both sides debate, when people are being obvious idiotic ****s they should literally do that story and say "put on a mask and don't be selfish"

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by The PMII Hypothesis

I’m told this is a great sign for immunity, but can’t be certain until Hamas weighs in. 😁

https://twitter.com/erictopol/status...134043140?s=21

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Mecca

This story, as a Costco member, is insanely stupid, put on a mask to be respectful in public you dumb ****s, jesus christ.

Not every news story deserves a both sides debate, when people are being obvious idiotic ****s they should literally do that story and say "put on a mask and don't be selfish"

No, I agree. I just don't really know if it's REALLY a lot of people who are dumb or if it's just a handful of random posts on Twitter.

It's not hard to find idiots if you hunt for them, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're prevalent.

[Baby Lee]

Hey guys, we're all in this together, . . . even you ****ing idiots who I can't stand and won't shut up about. . . .

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DaFace

No, I agree. I just don't really know if it's REALLY a lot of people who are dumb or if it's just a handful of random posts on Twitter.

It's not hard to find idiots if you hunt for them, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're prevalent.

You would think people would understand why they are expected to wear masks but hey people are protesting and being idiotic so I'm sure the people they reference exist.

News media in general needs to stop giving equal debate treatment for every issue, not every idiotic yahoo deserves to get to express a viewpoint a 5 year old would look down on upon the world.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

The article said 373 tested and all were asymptomatic. My point is if that is true then what is the ratio of symptomatic to asymptomatic?

Yeah I edited my post.

There was a group at Triumph that was symptomatic, but I don't believe that number was very high. From my understanding MOSAIC did the testing on the symptomatic group and then Northwest did the testing of the rest of the plant.

I want to say there was somewhere between 60-80 people displaying symptoms? Maybe less.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by DaFace

No, I agree. I just don't really know if it's REALLY a lot of people who are dumb or if it's just a handful of random posts on Twitter.

It's not hard to find idiots if you hunt for them, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're prevalent.

I think it's pretty prevalent. Not even hunting I get that idiotic text, while the host on this radio show I'm listening to is going on and on how this is bullshit, meanwhile the apartment across the street from me had a big party this weekend and the first thing that pops up on my newsfeed is there was a mass shooting at an illegal drag race in KC.

So I'd say stupidity is all around us at a high %

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by O.city

Us dropped under the 10% of positives test today for the first time so that’s good

KC area had one of its highest positive cases today and 8 deaths.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

KC area had one of its highest positive cases today and 8 deaths.

Well stop spreading your shit up here. Keep it to yourselves

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I think it's pretty prevalent. Not even hunting I get that idiotic text, while the host on this radio show I'm listening to is going on and on how this is bullshit, meanwhile the apartment across the street from me had a big party this weekend and the first thing that pops up on my newsfeed is there was a mass shooting at an illegal drag race in KC.

So I'd say stupidity is all around us at a high %

It would also be nice if people who host radio shows wouldn't encourage dumbassery to their listeners.

[TLO]

How much would you pay to have an antibody test done right now?

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by TLO

How much would you pay to have an antibody test done right now?

Three fifty

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

KC area had one of its highest positive cases today and 8 deaths.

Mo DoH says 6 deaths state wide in the last 24 hours.....

[O.city]

Originally Posted by The PMII Hypothesis

I’m told this is a great sign for immunity, but can’t be certain until Hamas weighs in. 😁

https://twitter.com/erictopol/status...134043140?s=21

That’s definitely good news