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staylor26 · 08-16-2016, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Lol.

If they're without their best defensive player for the majority of the season or if he's not 100 percent, that's gonna hamper their ability to win a superbowl.

In your terms, this is not arguable.

I have no doubt that Houston will be back at some point this season, and ready to roll by the playoffs.

This team could survive the regular season without him though. This offense is going to be really ****ig good. We're going to win games in the trenches. I can't think of a team with a better OL & DL combo than us. People are really underestimating that.

Also, Chris Jones is going to give us a gigantic boost in the interior pass rush department, and Dee Ford will also be a solid pass rusher. We'll be fine.

RunKC · 08-16-2016, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

That's fine, but I really doubt people are going to be telling me that Russell deserves more than he's earned on the field, because he's some ultimate leader with unique leadership qualities, especially if he held out too.

JFC this shit is so stupid.

Once again, the guy is a 4X pro bowler, 2X first team all-pro and comeback player of the year. This isn't Branden ****ing Albert or Sean Smith who have nothing on their resumes.

If you were recognized year in and year out for being the best in the league you too would want to get ****ing paid like it.

O.city · 08-16-2016, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I have no doubt that Houston will be back at some point this season, and ready to roll by the playoffs.

This team could survive the regular season without him though. This offense is going to be really ****ig good. We're going to win games in the trenches. I can't think of a team with a better OL & DL combo than us. People are really underestimating that.

Also, Chris Jones is going to give us a gigantic boost in the interior pass rush department, and Dee Ford will also be a solid pass rusher. We'll be fine.

Well, you had no doubt he'd be back playong by game one, so I'm doubting your no doubt skills.

They can survive without him, absolutely.

I don't think they're a superbowl contender without him. Dee Ford replacing him at strong olb is a big drop off.

staylor26 · 08-16-2016, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

What a guy posts, if he even posts at all, on social media doesn't have two shit's worth of effect on leadership abilities.

You're obviously butthurt about this whole situation. Your red's all up. Let go.

Do you idiots read? I asked for a quote, a video clip, social media posts, anything.

And I've actually been as neutral as you can be on this topic till today. I'm not angry a bit. I still love Berry on the field and hope he comes back this year and leads this team to a SB. I'm just dissapointed because I bought into him being this unique individual when he's really just like the rest.

Like I said, Jamaal ****ing Charles is the guy everybody makes Berry out to be.

staylor26 · 08-16-2016, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Well, you had no doubt he'd be back playong by game one, so I'm doubting your no doubt skills.

They can survive without him, absolutely.

I don't think they're a superbowl contender without him. Dee Ford replacing him at strong olb is a big drop off.

I never said I had no doubt he'd be back week one. I said after the bye week at the latest, which was a fair guess based on Dorsey and Reid's early optimism. That obviously changed, but I still don't see any way he misses the entire season. Not unless there is something they've been hiding, and I just don't see how that could happen, or even remain a secret this long.

ThaVirus · 08-16-2016, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Do you idiots read? I asked for a quote, a video clip, social media posts, anything.

And I've actually been as neutral as you can be on this topic till today. I'm not angry a bit. I still love Berry on the field and hope he comes back this year and leads this team to a SB. I'm just dissapointed because I bought into him being this unique individual when he's really just like the rest.

Like I said, Jamaal ****ing Charles is the guy everybody makes Berry out to be.

I've read everything you've posted. You're butthurt. You need to let it go.

Agreed on the Jamaal Charles part, though. That's one of the reasons I've been so adamant about keeping him around. Not often do you get to see guys retire with the same team they signed with 10+ years later. I'd like to see it happen with Jamaal.

DJ's signed some team-friendly deals as well.

staylor26 · 08-16-2016, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

JFC this shit is so stupid.

Once again, the guy is a 4X pro bowler, 2X first team all-pro and comeback player of the year. This isn't Branden ****ing Albert or Sean Smith who have nothing on their resumes.

If you were recognized year in and year out for being the best in the league you too would want to get ****ing paid like it.

I've already given the Jamaal Charles comparison. He's a perfect example that not every player is like that. Honestly, I wouldn't be either. I'd care more about winning a SB and being a part of something special.

But Eric Berry is not the best safety in the NFL. He was paid like one since day one, and he's received the accolades, so he feels entitled to be paid like it again (and then some). That's fine. I'm on Dorsey's side. I let him walk at that price, and thank him for everything he's done. It's not personal. I'm just dissapointed because I thought Berry was more like Charles, but he's not. That's okay, just stop preaching about his leadership qualities.

RunKC · 08-16-2016, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I've already given the Jamaal Charles comparison. He's a perfect example that not every player is like that. Honestly, I wouldn't be either. I'd care more about winning a SB and being a part of something special.

But Eric Berry is not the best safety in the NFL. He was paid like one since day one, and he's received the accolades, so he feels entitled to be paid like it again (and then some). That's fine. I'm on Dorsey's side. I let him walk at that price, and thank him for everything he's done. It's not personal. I'm just dissapointed because I thought Berry was more like Charles, but he's not. That's okay, just stop preaching about his leadership qualities.

He is a leader. Not showing up to training camp doesn't mean he isn't a leader.

Ask anyone on this team and they will tell you he's one of the teams leaders.

**Anyong Bluth** · 08-16-2016, 04:47 PM

Bærry can't get no love from CP & apparently now hates KC & the fans because he doesn't tweet or fb or whatever social media enough KC luv or personally wrap his lips around every fan he encounters cock and blow them on the spot while doing the tomahawk chop.

God this derailed quick.

ThaVirus · 08-16-2016, 04:47 PM

IIRC, Charles was the third-highest paid RB after he signed his current extension.

He definitely earned more than what he made prior to that extension but thankfully he got paid. Dude was criminally underpaid.

staylor26 · 08-16-2016, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

He is a leader. Not showing up to training camp doesn't mean he isn't a leader.

Ask anyone on this team and they will tell you he's one of the teams leaders.

I'm not saying he's not a leader at all. He is one of the biggest leaders on the team, but he's not the ultimate leader. He's not even top 3.

I'm just saying he's overrated in that department, just like he is on the field.

And you can't tell me he's not. I don't hear people saying we should pay extra for leadership qualities with any other players.

Mr. Laz · 08-16-2016, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

or re-signed Branch and Smith instead....too much PR back-lash for that to happen though. Berry's comeback story kind of tied their hands...at least for another season.

I'm happy he's back...also happy KC didnt cave to the hype.

But he's not back though, is he?

Mr. Leadership is at home instead of here helping all the young guys we have develop.

-King- · 08-16-2016, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I've already given the Jamaal Charles comparison. He's a perfect example that not every player is like that. Honestly, I wouldn't be either. I'd care more about winning a SB and being a part of something special.

But Eric Berry is not the best safety in the NFL. He was paid like one since day one, and he's received the accolades, so he feels entitled to be paid like it again (and then some). That's fine. I'm on Dorsey's side. I let him walk at that price, and thank him for everything he's done. It's not personal. I'm just dissapointed because I thought Berry was more like Charles, but he's not. That's okay, just stop preaching about his leadership qualities.

You have no idea if JC would sit out of training camp if he was franchised.

Stop making up narratives about players.
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-King- · 08-16-2016, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

But he's not back though, is he?

Mr. Leadership is at home instead of here helping all the young guys we have develop.

A lot of players have held out of TC when they've been franchised. The reigning Superbowl MVP held out of training camp.

Holding out has nothing to do with leadership.
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staylor26 · 08-16-2016, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

You have no idea if JC would sit out of training camp if he was franchised.

Stop making up narratives about players.
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Lol you're completely missing the point that Charles never let it get to that point because he's taken taken fair deals below his market to stay with the team.

What a ridiculous thing to say, and a perfect example of how little the fan base understands the kind of team player Jamaal has been.

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