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**dirk digler** · 10-18-2022, 04:02 PM

Can't believe the regular season starts tonight. Just seemed like the Finals ended a couple weeks ago.

Philly vs Celtics: 6:30PM CST TNT

GSW vs Lakers: 9:00PM CST TNT

BigCatDaddy · 05-13-2023, 12:27 PM

Lebron is the NBAs Tom Brady. Just able to play forever.

KC_Connection · 05-13-2023, 12:35 PM

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Lebron is the NBAs Tom Brady. Just able to play forever.

Except LeBron was actually the best player in the league for nearly 15 years. Tom Brady was the best player in the league for...1-2 years? Maybe no years at all?

smithandrew051 · 05-13-2023, 12:42 PM

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Except LeBron was actually the best player in the league for nearly 15 years. Tom Brady was the best player in the league for...1-2 years? Maybe no years at all?

I think of Brady more like Tim Duncan than LeBron

KC_Connection · 05-13-2023, 12:43 PM

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I think of Brady more like Tim Duncan than LeBron

A better comparison, but Tim Duncan was still more of a driving force of his team's success than Brady was for most of their careers.

smithandrew051 · 05-13-2023, 12:47 PM

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A better comparison, but Tim Duncan was still more of a driving force of his team's success than Brady was for most of their careers.

Well yeah, but that’s the nature of basketball vs football. The basketball player will always have a bigger impact.

Duncan had the HOF coach for his entire career. Rosters that weren’t always star studded, but always competent or better with few weaknesses, and a true system approach. Sorta like the Brady Patriots.

Prison Bitch · 05-13-2023, 12:50 PM

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Except LeBron was actually the best player in the league for nearly 15 years. Tom Brady was the best player in the league for...1-2 years? Maybe no years at all?

Yeah, the year he tossed 50td and finished 16-0 he likely wasn’t the best player lulz

BigCatDaddy · 05-13-2023, 12:59 PM

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Except LeBron was actually the best player in the league for nearly 15 years. Tom Brady was the best player in the league for...1-2 years? Maybe no years at all?

I think it's a pretty good comparison. Longevity guy that doesn't wow you but efficient.

KC_Connection · 05-13-2023, 01:01 PM

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Yeah, the year he tossed 50td and finished 16-0 he likely wasn’t the best player lulz

Peyton Manning was widely considered the best player in football for that 7-8 year period (and for good reason, he had 4 MVPs in like 6 years). Does one aberration year (2007) make Tom Brady better than Peyton Manning was from like 2003-2010? Did it make Lamar Jackson (2019) better than Patrick Mahomes?

Brady had some good years, but someone has always been better than him.

KC_Connection · 05-13-2023, 01:02 PM

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I think it's a pretty good comparison. Longevity guy that doesn't wow you but efficient.

If LeBron wasn't wowing you in his prime while regularly posting 35-40 point triple doubles in NBA finals games, I don't know what games you were watching.

tyecopeland · 05-13-2023, 01:05 PM

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I was wrong. That comment was about a very different team that the one that LeBron/Pelinka have now constructed. But let’s be real, nobody else here saw the Lakers in the WCF either a few months ago so you can’t be shitting on me too hard for this one.

What I was right about though was that Westbrook was absolutely destroying that team from the moment he was acquired.

You said this after the trades when everyone else here knew the Lakers got a hell of a lot better but you still wanted to piss on the team to make Lebron like like the hero if they happened to win.

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Killers? They're bad and I've said so all season here. Now they might be a bit better now that they replaced one of the literal worst players in the league (Westbrook) and their bunch of scrubs with actual shooters/defenders to play around LeBron (what a concept!), but they're still only something like 6th-8th best team at best in the West with LeBron/AD playing. A surefire 1st round exit if they even get lucky to get in and through the play-in.

And now obviously without a top 10 player in LeBron in the league not playing for multiple weeks, they're going to be a total disaster (see the on/off stats). There is very little reason to think they'll finish in the top 10 in that conference without him around.

KC_Connection · 05-13-2023, 01:15 PM

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You said this after the trades when everyone else here knew the Lakers got a hell of a lot better but you still wanted to piss on the team to make Lebron like like the hero if they happened to win.

Making the play-in was a possibility, but nobody here was saying that the Lakers were going to make the WCF at the time. You don't get to gloat over something that not one person here or anywhere else was predicting.

LeBron of course came back sooner than anybody anticipated, choosing instead to fight through a debilitating injury (that 2 doctors recommended surgery on) rather than cutting his season short. This entire postseason run is a testament to his resiliency and character in the face of extreme adversity.

Prison Bitch · 05-13-2023, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Peyton Manning was widely considered the best player in football for that 7-8 year period (and for good reason, he had 4 MVPs in like 6 years). Does one aberration year (2007) make Tom Brady better than Peyton Manning was from like 2003-2010? Did it make Lamar Jackson (2019) better than Patrick Mahomes?

Brady had some good years, but someone has always been better than him.

No, nobody was better than Brady in 2007. In pro football reference AV (approximate value) calcs Brady was the top player in 2007 and 2017. Peyton Maggot was just once 2004

Career rating: Brady 97.2 Maggot 96.5. And that’s with Brady playing 6 years in his 40s, manning played none

KC_Connection · 05-13-2023, 01:29 PM

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No, nobody was better than Brady in 2007.

I don't disagree, but that wasn't my point.

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Career rating: Brady 97.2 Maggot 96.5. And that’s with Brady playing 6 years in his 40s, manning played none

Both you and this stat are conveniently ignoring that Manning was pretty awful early in his career. He didn't become the best QB in the league until around 2003, which was six years into his career. If you focus on the actual period that I referred to (2003-2010), nobody came close to being statistically better than Manning.

**lewdog** · 05-13-2023, 01:30 PM

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Except LeBron was actually the best player in the league for nearly 15 years. Tom Brady was the best player in the league for...1-2 years? Maybe no years at all?

Who is more overrated, Steph Curry or Kobe?

KC_Connection · 05-13-2023, 01:31 PM

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Who is more overrated, Steph Curry or Kobe?

I'd love to say Steph, but it's probably Kobe. We had somebody (and not even Arrow) actually still saying Kobe had a better career than LeBron in this thread a week or so ago.

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