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A friend was having an affair, loved both women, couldn't decide on which and in a fit of drunken stupor killed himself on Christmas Eve with his young children downstairs at a party the family was hosting. A house full of friends and family celebrating Christmas forever tarnished with the memory of that night. We were invited but did not attend that party, thank God. If there was an argument for suicide being selfish his suicide would fit the bill. Yet after the shock and anger wears off you see a tragic story of someone who lost control of their life, was living a lie, drank too much and had a gun in the house. We often wonder, if he'd just waited until the morning would he have made the same choice? We think he wouldn't. Believe it or not, he was a fantastic father, good husband, and all around loveable sweet guy. The last person in the world you would call 'selfish.'
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That's the catch. Yeah there is a selfish side to it. Then there's a side to it where anyone who has the ability to stick a gun to themselves and pull the trigger is obviously suffering some sort of severe mental problem. I don't understand how people argue otherwise. There is nothing about this that should be considered normal behavior. |
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However, although I agree you have to be "off" to kill yourself, I wont say thats enough for me to give someone a pass. The problem here is eliminating the possibility that ego played a role. I can envision someone (Donald Trump) falling into financial ruin, and they are so damned self-centered that their family's potential misery is overwhelmed by their own financial, moral, or reputational standing, and they can't see that life is worth living because of how bad they'd feel, without a thought for how sad everyone else would be. To hell with those people. I want true, rare, genuine, drooling crazy. The fact that Seau recently came into financial difficulty doesn't help, if someone wants to argue his depression was sparked by his financial problems, thats only going to harden my heart, because that points to an ego-driven person staring into his downfall, without a care in the world for his mother's tears, not willing to live through it.
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Here's why I see both sides. I have had a couple of moments in my life where I got to a point where I could see the value in ending it all. I never took it any farther. I couldn't conceive of the pain it would cause for others. But it gave me a glimpse of why some people do it, and my thought was that if I magnified that feeling a few times, my caring about how others felt might be overwhelmed by a desire to just make it all stop, immediately and permanently. No more pain, at least for me. That may be selfish, but it isn't malicious.
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Normally, yes. Tumultuous last few days as I may be looking at new career options. Feeling just a bit anxious, but excited at the same time.
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not read through this but wasnt there a thread about the best way to kiill yourself a few days ago? did it get deleted because of this?
and im sure someone made an, at the time, bizarre reference to going out like junior seau - before he had shot himself. |
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