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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-17-2012, 07:43 PM   #271
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No. Come on.
Berry wasn't as good as a rookie as those guys?


Come on.
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Old 07-17-2012, 07:44 PM   #272
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Yeah, you're right.

Houston looks like he isnt "on pace to be a difference maker"

Neither does Hudson.

Or Bailey.

Try to keep in mind the lockout when trying to figure out what "on pace to be a difference maker" means for a rookie.
Dude Hudson played 2 games and Bailey really didn't do too much. How do you determine that these guys are already difference makers?
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Just put a picture of Cassel up and say lockout.



BTW, I notice you are putting up Wr's and not any defensive players?
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Berry wasn't as good as a rookie as those guys?


Come on.
He had a good rookie year, but he didn't beast **** everyone in his path.
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I bet DMC doesn't have even 300 total yards this year.

Dude is not getting 200 touches again. #36? Shit value. Good value at that pick is a starter, not a 3rd stringer.

Jackson is a decent player who will never be a good value. Maybe if he'd been taken in the 3rd.
For a guy always preaching taking a risk in the draft, you are awfully hard on Pioli when he does. McCluster was a risk. His ceiling was Sproles, his floor was contributor.

Where was the value at the top of that draft? Especially for the Chiefs.
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BTW, I notice you are putting up Wr's and not any defensive players?
Lockout? Tyson Jackson, suck my balls.

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For a guy always preaching taking a risk in the draft, you are awfully hard on Pioli when he does. McCluster was a risk. His ceiling was Sproles, his floor was contributor.

Where was the value at the top of that draft? Especially for the Chiefs.
This has been discussed ad nauseam.

We could have had Rob Gronkowski.
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He had a good rookie year, but he didn't beast **** everyone in his path.
He was damn near an all pro.
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Dude Hudson played 2 games and Bailey really didn't do too much. How do you determine that these guys are already difference makers?
On pace to be something and already being something are two different things.

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He was damn near an all pro.
Who got burned hard in the first month, and got beast ****ed by Todd Heap in the last game.
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This has been discussed ad nauseam.

We could have had Rob Gronkowski.
I love how you cherry pick shit and don't look at the whole situation when talking about the Chiefs front office or team, but if it's some other team there are so many extenuating circumstances.
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On pace to be something and already being something are two different things.

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I wish we traded two firsts, a second and a couple other picks for a wideout.
I do, too, because if we had Julio Jones we probably win the division last year, and can afford to **** around with Bowe.
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I love how you cherry pick shit and don't look at the whole situation when talking about the Chiefs front office or team, but if it's some other team there are so many extenuating circumstances.
Who's cherry picking?

I don't want to hear lockout excuses for our rookies when there are several examples of guys who gave no ****s about a lockout.

There's no cherry picking with this team. 21 wins in 3 years, and 1-8 against playoff teams for the golden boy. That's a whole lotta fail.
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This has been discussed ad nauseam.

We could have had Rob Gronkowski.
Or Taylor Mays
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