*****The Kingsley Suamataia Thread*****

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

I was coming to type that....doesn't seem to happen much around the league anymore.

Guys wanna get to FA. I'd guess our guys do as well.

Feels like it happens with other teams more than us though. Look at DeVonta Smith, Amon-Ra St. Brown, and Penei Sewell all signing extensions early recently.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Feels like it happens with other teams more than us though. Look at DeVonta Smith, Amon-Ra St. Brown, and Penei Sewell all signing extensions early recently.

True, but look at what those guys got. I dunno if we're gung ho to make guys top of the market players.

Creed maybe.

I doubt they do it with Bolton.

[Sofa King]

2025 Butker, Creed, Smith, Reid, Bolton, M. Brown (no way)
2026 McDuffie, Karlaftis, Watson (cb), Cook, Pacheco, Joshua Williams, Chenal (Kelce and Thuney)

Gonna be an interesting couple years.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

2025 Butker, Creed, Smith, Reid, Bolton, M. Brown (no way)
2026 McDuffie, Karlaftis, Watson (cb), Cook, Pacheco, Joshua Williams, Chenal (Kelce and Thuney)

Gonna be an interesting couple years.

Bolded are the ones I'd bring back. Obviously that depends on the deal.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Bolded are the ones I'd bring back. Obviously that depends on the deal.

Smith will price out, IMO.

Pacheco has those Lindsay Lohan miles on him.

Cook just hasn't shown me much. Not enough to say yes or no, really.

Butker, Creed, McDuffie and Karlaftis are my priority guys. The rest are fringier players, players at positions of nominal importance or players where we've shown real strength at drafting replacements for them.

Then again, I never thought we'd bring back Danna and we did. So we do seem to be a little more interested in giving 2nd deals to middle class players than I would've been. I could see a couple of the other guys being retained as well.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Smith will price out, IMO.

Pacheco has those Lindsay Lohan miles on him.

Cook just hasn't shown me much. Not enough to say yes or no, really.

Butker, Creed, McDuffie and Karlaftis are my priority guys. The rest are fringier players, players at positions of nominal importance or players where we've shown real strength at drafting replacements for them.

Then again, I never thought we'd bring back Danna and we did. So we do seem to be a little more interested in giving 2nd deals to middle class players than I would've been. I could see a couple of the other guys being retained as well.

Not sure why I highlighted Smith. I didn't mean to include him.

[Sofa King]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Bolded are the ones I'd bring back. Obviously that depends on the deal.

I'm shocked you wouldnt put Bolton in there. He's young, cheaper position and he's good. Tranquill isn't doing his job. He's smaller, older and has injury issues.

Chenal will take on Drue's money when drue leaves IMO.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

I'm shocked you wouldnt put Bolton in there. He's young, cheaper position and he's good. Tranquill isn't doing his job. He's smaller, older and has injury issues.

Chenal will take on Drue's money when drue leaves IMO.

I'm not shocked that I ****ed it up this morning. I meant to highlight Bolton and not Smith.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

2025 Butker, Creed, Smith, Reid, Bolton, M. Brown (no way)
2026 McDuffie, Karlaftis, Watson (cb), Cook, Pacheco, Joshua Williams, Chenal (Kelce and Thuney)

Gonna be an interesting couple years.

They are going to keep Creed, Bolton, and Butker IMO. And for as much as I like Bolton, with the LB market what it is, I would not stress too much if he wanted to test the market. You have got to watch the overpay at that position.

You have 5th year options on George and Trent. That should help. I think you need to prepare yourself to watch guys like Cook, Pacheco, Chenal, and Thuney exit. The only guys who stay are the LBs and CBs who are open to fair contacts (see Mike Danna)

[O.city]

McDuffie and Karlaftis, if things progress as they have, are gonna be highest paid at their positions type deals.....I'd think?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

McDuffie and Karlaftis, if things progress as they have, are gonna be highest paid at their positions type deals.....I'd think?

If that's what Karlaftis asks for, I let him test the market.

I mean highest paid at his position is Parsons/Bosa. I like George but he ain't THAT. Or anything like it.

He's a really nice secondary pass rusher but he's not someone you build a defense around.

As for McDuffie - yeah, probably. Try to get him signed before Gardner if possible.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If that's what Karlaftis asks for, I let him test the market.

I mean highest paid at his position is Parsons/Bosa. I like George but he ain't THAT. Or anything like it.

He's a really nice secondary pass rusher but he's not someone you build a defense around.

As for McDuffie - yeah, probably. Try to get him signed before Gardner if possible.

I don't think George is that either, but with the seasons he's stacked up....if he progresses from year 2 to year 3 like 1-2......I don't see how he doesn't come asking for that.

Now you'd have a year, the 5th year option and a tag year so there's leverage there, but yeah.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If that's what Karlaftis asks for, I let him test the market.

I mean highest paid at his position is Parsons/Bosa. I like George but he ain't THAT. Or anything like it.

He's a really nice secondary pass rusher but he's not someone you build a defense around.

As for McDuffie - yeah, probably. Try to get him signed before Gardner if possible.

If Karlaftis gives you 4 years like we’ve seen so far (8-10 sacks and steady production), would you accept the Brian Burns trade comp for him?

An early second and a mid round pick the following year.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by O.city

McDuffie and Karlaftis, if things progress as they have, are gonna be highest paid at their positions type deals.....I'd think?

McDuffie yes, Karlaftis no. There is a substantial gulf between those 2.

[smithandrew051]

Zero chance I’d give Pacheco an extension.

Love the player, but he won’t last. Don’t love paying running backs anyway, but his style of play is even less conducive to longevity than other backs.

If you could flip out of him a year early for a mid round pick, I’d consider it. Or (preferably) just run him into the ground and let him walk. Then, maybe he comes back on a 1-year deal if no one pays him.