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Old 01-13-2020, 12:59 PM  
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Old 02-18-2020, 01:46 PM   #271
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Hope everyone of these cheating ****s get hit with pitches when they’re at the plate.

Baker is already calling for the MLB to step in with this issue.
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Old 02-18-2020, 01:54 PM   #272
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Hope everyone of these cheating ****s get hit with pitches when they’re at the plate.

Baker is already calling for the MLB to step in with this issue.
It'll be great when dudes are ejected immediately and hit with super long suspensions.
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Old 02-18-2020, 01:55 PM   #273
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It'll be great when dudes are ejected immediately and hit with super long suspensions.
Don’t think it will stop them.
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Old 02-18-2020, 02:10 PM   #274
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It'll be great when dudes are ejected immediately and hit with super long suspensions.
I think theres an argument to be made for this. You give a long suspension to a player for an action that only affected a single baserunner. MLBPA could have a field day with that, "You suspended X pitcher for a beanball, but not a single Astros player was suspended for tainting entire seasons."
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Old 02-18-2020, 02:52 PM   #275
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If the steroid era taught us anything, it’s that the cheaters are waaayy ahead of the people trying to catch the cheaters.

Read Game of Shadows if you haven’t. That book discusses in great detail how they were able to create new substances to cheat drug tests. They were so far ahead of the testers.
Reminds me of Icarus which is an amazing documentary about the Russian doping scandal...

Rodchenkov's methods and the Russians' entire system was insane...

Can only imagine in 2020 what teams will come up with.
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Old 02-18-2020, 02:54 PM   #276
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It'll be great when dudes are ejected immediately and hit with super long suspensions.
Literally nobody is stupid enough to think that would happen.
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Old 02-18-2020, 03:43 PM   #277
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Hope everyone of these cheating ****s get hit with pitches when they’re at the plate.

Baker is already calling for the MLB to step in with this issue.
According to Vegas, the O/U for Astros getting beaned this year is 86.5

Also, the players are getting more upset. Trout and Markakis just called out the Commissioner stating that the Astro (and possibly RedSox) players who participated should be suspended/banned (Although Markakis said "should be beaten".)
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Old 02-18-2020, 03:46 PM   #278
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Players complaining about the MLB Head office not punishing the players is such a joke. They would have rebelled and done all sorts of shit if they have started suspending Astro players about the cheating. No matter what happens they complain about the Commissioner when almost all the problems stem from the MLBPA having too much power.

There would be rules about cheating in place if the Union would allow it. Just like PEDs would have been handled years earlier if the Union hadn't of prevented it. There would be more parity in the league if the Union didn't screw it up.

Most of the problems in the league stem from the players not the Commissioner.
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Players complaining about the MLB Head office not punishing the players is such a joke. They would have rebelled and done all sorts of shit if they have started suspending Astro players about the cheating. No matter what happens they complain about the Commissioner when almost all the problems stem from the MLBPA having too much power.

There would be rules about cheating in place if the Union would allow it. Just like PEDs would have been handled years earlier if the Union hadn't of prevented it. There would be more parity in the league if the Union didn't screw it up.

Most of the problems in the league stem from the players not the Commissioner.
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Seems like a simple solution. Too bad the commissioner is a simple simpleton. If there's any plus out of this it's that Manfred has botched this so badly he might get shoved out.
the only thing that may give any team/player pause is the death penalty or instaneonous banning for a year or two if caught.

Baseball is an old school sport but it has to wake up to modern day tech being used to cheat.
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The Black Sox were banned for life for throwing the Series. And they couldn't even prove that some of the players really cheated.

Mickey Mantle was banned for taking a job with a casino, after he retired, IIRC.

Pete Rose was banned for a betting on games as a manager.

Jenry Mejia (may have screwed up spelling that ) was banned for life for PEDs.

It makes absolutely no sense that the Astros players aren't being punished. They were caught cheating, plain and simple. They should be banned or suspended for at least a season.
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Too bad the NFL lets this shit fly in their league
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The same players that are complaining would have went a long with it has it been them. Let's be honest here, it's not like the Astros assembled the 25 players without morals to do this.
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