Life The Death Penalty - Page 19

Mama Hip Rockets · 08-07-2008, 09:48 AM

A friend of my parents is sentenced to be executed in a couple of weeks for being an accomplice in a murder in 1994. You can read the details of the incident below (written by his wife), and sign the petition if you feel inclined to do so. We are petitioning for his sentence to be changed to life in prison without parole, rather than death.

On Friday, despite the fact that we have two issues before the court, the Missouri Supreme Court set an execution date of Aug. 27. For those of you who would like to do anything to help try to prevent this state from killing my husband, your help is welcome and there are some fairly simple things you can do. For those who are not aware of the facts of the case, here are some main points:Allen Nicklasson, the man who shot and killed Richard Drummond in Aug. 1994 did so on his own after leaving Dennis behind in the stolen car. Allen has been consistent in telling the truth since day one - with his friends and close acquaintances, as well as with law enforcement - that Dennis had absolutely no idea that when Allen walked Drummond into the woods, Allen was going to shoot him. Allen had planned to tie Drummond up so that by the time Drummond could free himself and walk into town to all police, Allen, Dennis and Tim DeGraffenreid would be back in Blue Springs, hiding out.Instead, Allen decided to kill Drummond. His statements to police have been consistent and truthful, but the state successfully kept Allen from testifying in trial. The jury never heard the truth and thus convicted Dennis for first-degree murder as an accomplice. Allen has tried through the years to be heard in court, but the appellate courts denied him that right as well. We are still trying to get the Supreme Court to look at Allen's statements. Dennis is not an innocent victim, but he is innocent of first-degree murder. We are not asking that he be freed. We believe the sentence of death is excessive in this case, and that society would be safe and justice would be served through clemency, which means we want the governor to change Dennis' sentence to life in prison without the possibility of parole.In addition, Dennis has been actively involved in restorative justice even before the program was established at Potosi Correctional Center. He is the editor of Compassion, a publication written and edited by death row inmates across the country who have raised more than $34,000 in college scholarships for family members of murdered victims. This scholarship goes to family members regardless of their stance on the death penalty. For example, Zach Osbourne, one of the recipients, supports the death penalty openly and is going to school to become a police officer. Dennis compiled a book, "Today's Choices Affect Tomorrow's Dreams," that is distributed for free to juvenile centers around the country. The book has been so popular, he has been asked to do another. That book is currently being compiled.Dennis is chairman of the prison's Hospice group and has cared for many dying prison patients through the years. He is a co-founder of 4-H LIFE, a family strengthening program that teaches inmates to be better parents and includes a family 4-H meeting each month inside the prison. As a former president and officer of 4-H, Dennis has led fundraisers to send money to children's programs in the state and to send 4-H LIFE members to summer camp and state leadership programs. 4-H LIFE has won several awards and is now active in several other prisons.Dennis has actively worked to build bridges between the Protestant, Catholic, Muslim, Islamic and Native American religious groups at the prison. He is a founder of the Charity Carnival - in its second year - that raises money inside the prison for charitable organizations. The carnival is today, but he is locked up and cannot carry out his responsibilities for that event.Dennis speaks to university student groups on a regular basis to give them insight into the death penalty and prison life. He is, and remains, a positive spokesman and positive role models for other prisoners.He is a leader in the Set Free Ministry, a prison ministry that works with thousands of inmates in Missouri and Illinois to help them in their Christian walk. The Ministry has grown from an office of three to an office of around 20 inmates at PCC and a second office in Charleston's prison. The Ministry continues to expand in prisons in the two states as well as into jails.All of this is documented, not the exaggerated account of a wife desperate to save her husband.For those of you who have asked, I am terrified, but determined to fight for justice for my family. Murdering my husband is not justice - it is harming me, my son, Dennis' sisters, brother, nephews, aunts uncles, friends, etc. He is my soulmate, for those of you who understand what that means. A date is an extremely serious situation, but we have issues to pursue and this does not mean we're done. Please do not assume that this is inevitable, even though we have a very, very difficult fight in the next 32 days.I appreciate your support in any way. Should you want to write letters, file amicus briefs (friend of the court) with your church or other organization, let me know and I'll give you more info. If you choose to pray, please ask God to intervene and see that Dennis receives a lesser sentence.Thanks.

You can sign the petition at the link below. Thanks.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/help-dennis-skillicorn

Frazod · 08-07-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge

Man that is horrific. For a 12 pack of Sam Adams if you give me the name of the guy and the kids, justice can be served.

He's on the national pervert database. Honestly, I don't recall his name (obviously I've never met the man). I'll post a link to his page later.

tooge · 08-07-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Her dad's shotgun has been in my closet for the past couple of years. He can't be trusted with it.

I can barely be trusted with it.

Her family is planning on moving out of state to give her a fresh start, but the damage is done.

Man, i am completely serious. How is it that the corksucker is able to walk, drive, etc. around town and feel safe? I would be going freaking ninja on his ass. I applaud your self control I guess.

tooge · 08-07-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

He's on the national pervert database. Honestly, I don't recall his name (obviously I've never met the man). I'll post a link to his page later.

Is it a crime to harass someone on their page?

Frazod · 08-07-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge

Man, i am completely serious. How is it that the corksucker is able to walk, drive, etc. around town and feel safe? I would be going freaking ninja on his ass. I applaud your self control I guess.

My self-control mainly came from her mother going out of her way to make sure I didn't know who the guy was. She wouldn't tell me or let anybody else tell me. I never knew who he was until after it was all over. That's why I don't recall him name - I've only seen it once. And he lives out of state now, somewhere in Iowa.

tooge · 08-07-2008, 01:52 PM

Poor girl. I have a little girl, and I guess this crap just strikes so close to home that I can almost feel my blood pressure go up when I hear about stuff like that.

**Skip Towne** · 08-07-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

charity of others how?

We'd all be speaking German if the rest of us hadn't defended us as well as them. Of course they did nothing to help.

Valiant · 08-07-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I figured as much.

I think your view might be different with children of your own.

Kind of like if your children were brutally raped and murdered.. It would change your perspective on the death penalty..

But yet you said earlier that emotion should not predict punishment.. Kind of the same way you are telling him that it might be different if he had kids..

Which is it?? Does emotion play a factor or only when you want to use it??

Valiant · 08-07-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

them Amish did it when there kids got wiped out by that madman.

Yeah they also destroyed the house and planted grass over it.. They totally wiped out any memory of that building, killer or children ever being there..

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-07-2008, 01:59 PM

WOW. Major flashback. I remember when this happened.

Valiant · 08-07-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Philly if anyone ever laid a finger on my son I would likely want to go out and put a bullet in that person's head. That hardly makes that action fair or the right thing to do according to the law. Or even morally for that matter.

You keep playing that card... And it isn't helping your argument.

Yet you just played the exact same card in saying Frazod on his feeling differing from godchildren to if he had children..

All you do is ramble nonsense and deflect.. And then turn around do nothing to enforce your argument but say 'keep playing that card'..

Your views on this subject and pretty much every other subject are whacked..

Reading your thoughts on this and then comparing it to Gangster rap and black lifestyle thread is very telling of you..

Frazod · 08-07-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge

Poor girl. I have a little girl, and I guess this crap just strikes so close to home that I can almost feel my blood pressure go up when I hear about stuff like that.

At least the guy is on the database. He may not be in jail, or dead (as I certainly would like to make him), but his life is trashed. He'll be on the sex offender database forever, and I'm sure there are people in his town who check that list and fuck with him just to do it.

I'm not going to post his identity, mainly because if anything unfortuante would happen to this piece of shit, my goddaughter's family would immediately be suspected, and they've already been through enough over this shit.

Frazod · 08-07-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

We'd all be speaking German if the rest of us hadn't defended us as well as them. Of course they did nothing to help.

Skip stated my point a bit better than I did.

MOhillbilly · 08-07-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

We'd all be speaking German if the rest of us hadn't defended us as well as them. Of course they did nothing to help.

i like germans. its the irish scum i dont care for.

Valiant · 08-07-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

And people who think they own a monopoly on what America is and should be make me sick at mine.

I could've sworn the man in question was only an accomplice.

But yet did nothing to stop four killings.. And kept with the killers..

But go on deflecting.. You are good at it..

Valiant · 08-07-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I spank my son when it's necessary.
I don't spare the rod.

Sweet I think I will trace your IP and call child services.. That is what you would do as a good liberal?? yes/no??

08-07-2008, 09:48 AM
Mama Hip Rockets You don't faze me, Gobble. Join Date: Dec 2005 Casino cash: $9915644	The Death Penalty A friend of my parents is sentenced to be executed in a couple of weeks for being an accomplice in a murder in 1994. You can read the details of the incident below (written by his wife), and sign the petition if you feel inclined to do so. We are petitioning for his sentence to be changed to life in prison without parole, rather than death. On Friday, despite the fact that we have two issues before the court, the Missouri Supreme Court set an execution date of Aug. 27. For those of you who would like to do anything to help try to prevent this state from killing my husband, your help is welcome and there are some fairly simple things you can do. For those who are not aware of the facts of the case, here are some main points:Allen Nicklasson, the man who shot and killed Richard Drummond in Aug. 1994 did so on his own after leaving Dennis behind in the stolen car. Allen has been consistent in telling the truth since day one - with his friends and close acquaintances, as well as with law enforcement - that Dennis had absolutely no idea that when Allen walked Drummond into the woods, Allen was going to shoot him. Allen had planned to tie Drummond up so that by the time Drummond could free himself and walk into town to all police, Allen, Dennis and Tim DeGraffenreid would be back in Blue Springs, hiding out.Instead, Allen decided to kill Drummond. His statements to police have been consistent and truthful, but the state successfully kept Allen from testifying in trial. The jury never heard the truth and thus convicted Dennis for first-degree murder as an accomplice. Allen has tried through the years to be heard in court, but the appellate courts denied him that right as well. We are still trying to get the Supreme Court to look at Allen's statements. Dennis is not an innocent victim, but he is innocent of first-degree murder. We are not asking that he be freed. We believe the sentence of death is excessive in this case, and that society would be safe and justice would be served through clemency, which means we want the governor to change Dennis' sentence to life in prison without the possibility of parole.In addition, Dennis has been actively involved in restorative justice even before the program was established at Potosi Correctional Center. He is the editor of Compassion, a publication written and edited by death row inmates across the country who have raised more than $34,000 in college scholarships for family members of murdered victims. This scholarship goes to family members regardless of their stance on the death penalty. For example, Zach Osbourne, one of the recipients, supports the death penalty openly and is going to school to become a police officer. Dennis compiled a book, "Today's Choices Affect Tomorrow's Dreams," that is distributed for free to juvenile centers around the country. The book has been so popular, he has been asked to do another. That book is currently being compiled.Dennis is chairman of the prison's Hospice group and has cared for many dying prison patients through the years. He is a co-founder of 4-H LIFE, a family strengthening program that teaches inmates to be better parents and includes a family 4-H meeting each month inside the prison. As a former president and officer of 4-H, Dennis has led fundraisers to send money to children's programs in the state and to send 4-H LIFE members to summer camp and state leadership programs. 4-H LIFE has won several awards and is now active in several other prisons.Dennis has actively worked to build bridges between the Protestant, Catholic, Muslim, Islamic and Native American religious groups at the prison. He is a founder of the Charity Carnival - in its second year - that raises money inside the prison for charitable organizations. The carnival is today, but he is locked up and cannot carry out his responsibilities for that event.Dennis speaks to university student groups on a regular basis to give them insight into the death penalty and prison life. He is, and remains, a positive spokesman and positive role models for other prisoners.He is a leader in the Set Free Ministry, a prison ministry that works with thousands of inmates in Missouri and Illinois to help them in their Christian walk. The Ministry has grown from an office of three to an office of around 20 inmates at PCC and a second office in Charleston's prison. The Ministry continues to expand in prisons in the two states as well as into jails.All of this is documented, not the exaggerated account of a wife desperate to save her husband.For those of you who have asked, I am terrified, but determined to fight for justice for my family. Murdering my husband is not justice - it is harming me, my son, Dennis' sisters, brother, nephews, aunts uncles, friends, etc. He is my soulmate, for those of you who understand what that means. A date is an extremely serious situation, but we have issues to pursue and this does not mean we're done. Please do not assume that this is inevitable, even though we have a very, very difficult fight in the next 32 days.I appreciate your support in any way. Should you want to write letters, file amicus briefs (friend of the court) with your church or other organization, let me know and I'll give you more info. If you choose to pray, please ask God to intervene and see that Dennis receives a lesser sentence.Thanks. You can sign the petition at the link below. Thanks. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/help-dennis-skillicorn
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08-07-2008, 01:52 PM	#275
tooge MVP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Liberty, MO Casino cash: $544112	Poor girl. I have a little girl, and I guess this crap just strikes so close to home that I can almost feel my blood pressure go up when I hear about stuff like that.
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08-07-2008, 01:59 PM	#279
BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	WOW. Major flashback. I remember when this happened.
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