Football CUTLER TO BEARS! - Page 19

**TinyEvel** · 06:54 PM

Per NFL network.

(FIRST!)

**Reaper16** · 04-02-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

If I am the Bears I go out and sign Torry Holt.

The Ramsification of the Bears continues.

Micjones · 04-02-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

If I am the Bears I go out and sign Torry Holt.

Yep. They need help there.

orange · 04-02-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

That wasn't out when I posted that. Yeah, Pace changes things a bit. What will they do with Chris Williams now? Did they draft him in the first last year to play RT?

Nah. Good teams would never slide a high draft choice to RT to make way for a deluxe LT. I've read that a million times on ChiefsPlanet.

listopencil · 04-02-2009, 04:24 PM

You know what? In all honesty...good. For many years we had this coach that was supposed to be an Offensive guru. A "mastermind" on that side of the ball. I kept thinking that if you are in charge of an organization and you have a dominant skill then you spend your resources where you are weak. You aggressively go after the best coaching and the best players you can on Defense. Then you use your skill to develop players on O that wouldn't be as productive on other teams.

But I watched my team spend valuable resources on the Offense while the D wasted away. Sure. We traded Portis for Bailey. We got rid of a RB that wasn't going to play for us anyway so we could make a superstar CB lead our team in tackles. Woop dee ****ing doo. A few years later Champ is banged up and gun shy from trying to cover for a shitty line and an eroded LB corps.

So...I'm waiting. IF the new regime uses these new picks to fix the D and polishes one of our turd QB's enough to make him competent...then I'm happy. Frankly I'm sick of the _enver _onkey _efense.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-02-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

Nah. Good teams would never slide a high draft choice to RT to make way for a deluxe LT. I've read that a million times on ChiefsPlanet.

Had Chris Williams had the season Branden Albert had last year, the Bears don't bother signing Orlando Pace.

KCChiefsMan · 04-02-2009, 04:25 PM

WOW! Denver didn't get robbed though, 2 first rounders and Orton. Here's to Denver drafting 2 busts!

**doomy3** · 04-02-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

Nah. Good teams would never slide a high draft choice to RT to make way for a deluxe LT. I've read that a million times on ChiefsPlanet.

Yeah, that's why I'm so confused about this. I thought everyone signed all the line spots besides LT in rounds 3-7.

Basileus777 · 04-02-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

Nah. Good teams would never slide a high draft choice to RT to make way for a deluxe LT. I've read that a million times on ChiefsPlanet.

Pace doesn't have much left. Signing him doesn't mean that Williams is being consigned to RT for the rest of his career.

**The Bad Guy** · 04-02-2009, 04:28 PM

I really wish the Chiefs signed Kevin Schaffer.

Hootie · 04-02-2009, 04:30 PM

What's the problem with playing Williams at RT? He'll be a badass RT...Pace is only going to be a Bear for 1 or 2 years...you put Pace at LT...if he gets hurt you have depth with Schaeffer...Pace is a low risk/high reward signing especially with the OT depth the Bears now have.

**SAUTO** · 04-02-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

And as such, we are shown the difference between a franchise quarterback (two firsts, a third, and a game manager) and a system quarterback (a second).

SO in your estimation deion branch is 4x the receiver randy moss is?

Hootie · 04-02-2009, 04:32 PM

and the Bears also have Frank Omiyale who plays OG and OT...they have a shit ton of depth on their line now with guys who can play multiple positions.

Forte/Cutler...shit, trade the rest of their draft for Chad Johnson and they are set

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-02-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It's a great deal for the Bears...people who don't think it is either don't like Cutler because he was on the Broncos or they don't value the QB position at all.

It IS a great deal for the Bears.

They didn't like Kyle Orton. Gone.

They likely wouldn't have been able to draft a QB like Cutler with their 2009 pick.

So in essence, all they really gave up was a 2010 pick for supposedly one of the best young QB's in the game.

**doomy3** · 04-02-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

What's the problem with playing Williams at RT? He'll be a badass RT...Pace is only going to be a Bear for 1 or 2 years...you put Pace at LT...if he gets hurt you have depth with Schaeffer...Pace is a low risk/high reward signing especially with the OT depth the Bears now have.

But wasn't Williams' strength his feet and athleticism last year? Seems like all the talk was that he was an ideal pass blocking LT that wasn't a physical mauler. If that's the case, why would he be a badass RT?

If I am remembering last year's assessment on him incorrectly, I apologize in advance.

Hootie · 04-02-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

SO in your estimation deion branch is 4x the receiver randy moss is?

Trading a lot for Cutler makes a lot more sense than trading a lot for Cassel...

The Pats had to get Cassel off of their books in order to make all of the great signings they made...

I don't care either way...Cassel isn't a prima donna, he's a student of the game and he'll do anything for his team...I love the fact he's a Chief...and that we only had to give up #34 for him.

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