Jon Baldwin has been traded to the 49ers

[Bambi]

Per Petro right now. Very sketchy info at this time

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

Well it would have been better than taking Jenkins, that is for sure.

Yup. Well, for all the great things the 49ers have done drafting, and grabbing udfa to contribute, this is their one black eye. I think you can over look that when you factor in that pretty much every player in their 2011 draft hit, and hit hard.

oh well. Good thing they dumped him and moved on.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

He got all the chances in the world. It's damn good staff loaded up with pretty good coaches and if they felt that Baldwin wasn't "getting it" then there you go, i.e., the Jenkins/Baldwin trade.

From all accounts, the guy is lazy and doesn't run/won't learn to run proper routes, which is first and foremost in a West Coast system. Maybe with Kaepernick, he'll be allowed to free lance a bit more which might fit his style of play.

All I know is that Baldwin was in Reid's doghouse from the get go and it is now obvious that he wasn't getting out anytime soon.

Good trade for both teams.

And now we know why he was targeted so much on Friday.

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

He has to earn that right.

He has to beat out guys like Austin Collie, Chad Hall, and Marlon Moore.

Yeah. Let that sink in.

While learning the playbook and coming to camp late. If he doesn't do work, he'll be gone.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58

...Chiefs General Manager John Dorsey said. “A.J. is a talented individual with a skillset that we feel can add value to our football team. Jon Baldwin is a hardworking player and a professional.

Well, that tells us what Dorsey thinks about Baldwin!

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Marvin49

Actually Dorsey has played well so far.

If by played well you mean that he has been surpassed on the depth chart by undrafted free agent Ian Williams, then you are absolutely correct.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

If Belichick is the Walter White of NFL personnel, Pioli is Tod.

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

He has to earn that right.

He has to beat out guys like Austin Collie, Chad Hall, and Marlon Moore.

Yeah. Let that sink in.

Pathetic, isn't it. Desperation at it's finest for both teams.

[Eleazar]

haha

[SuperChief]

Originally Posted by COchief

This thread should be titled "Find out whose stupid on CP"

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by Marvin49

Actually Dorsey has played well so far.

At least D-line coach Jim Tomsula has been thrilled with his progress so far.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by notorious

The punch from Jones caused Baldfail to become a slow, shitty route running idiot?

No, but it got in his head.

C'mon, we all know how critical it is for these guys to get out, get confident and start making their way in this league. The margins between success and failure are so incredibly small that, if you're not 100% confident in your ability, you're going to struggle.

I think Ryan Sims falls in this class a little as well. Sims was never going to be a star, I'll grant you. But in Sims rookie year, when he broke his elbow and it just fried that season, he was immediately behind the 8 ball. He seemed to lose his confidence there, it never came back and he just shuffled to hell and gone.

We see it a lot. Had Baldwin been a more mature kid, I don't think the thumb would've had an impact on him. But he wasn't (still isn't). After the fight/thumb, I think Baldwin just felt picked on. He felt like his teammates didn't support him and he just flat shut it down. He lost that rookie season because his confidence wasn't there.

Meanwhile, had Jones done what a veteran leader should've done and actually taken the kid aside and worked with him, I don't think he gets down on himself like he did.

Baldwin was a major project that was going to need everything to go right for him to hit. When Jones decided to keep it real with a damn teammate, he ensured that the development curve wouldn't be a smooth one for Baldwin. That was enough to send an immature kid off the rails.

But either way, Baldwin wouldn't have worked in this offense - he's just not the right WR. But I do believe that, had he gotten off to a quick start and ingratiated himself with his teammates, he'd have been a happy, productive WR. I also think he would've been far better in a different system.

It's not Jones fault that Baldwin is an immature dude. But he didn't have to make the situation worse and you keep veterans in your locker room with the idea that they'll improve situations like that. Jones' bullshit didn't.

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

If by played well you mean that he has been surpassed on the depth chart by undrafted free agent Ian Williams, then you are absolutely correct.

Ian shouldn't have ben a UDFA..with that said, Dorsey hasn't lived up to his early 1st potential...but he's good enough to make the 53 of the 9ers..who have one of the best fron 7s in the NFL. He'll be suited on game day..which says even more.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If Millen clinched the "Worst GM Ever" ranking, doesn't Pioli have a chokehold on #2?

This would be an interesting research project.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Pablo

I hope it isn't Hemingway. I want that guy to succeed.

Ditto.

I'm pretty sure that if the guy could stay healthy in the preseason, he'd already have beaten out Baldwin. Guy ran some really great routes in college and had glue hands. Built like a H-back.

[Marvin49]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

If by played well you mean that he has been surpassed on the depth chart by undrafted free agent Ian Williams, then you are absolutely correct.

That has had more to do with Williams playing well thanDorsey playing poorly.

I don't have the same expectations of Dorsey than you guys did coming out of the draft. I never expected him to be great...I only expected him to challenge for a spot on the team. So far, he's been a pretty good run stuffer. Thats all they need him to be.