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Old 12-28-2014, 05:15 PM  
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6-10 Team with Chase Daniel

Someone at the game today made a comment that we should play Chase Daniel next year and "get rid of that clown Smith". Like always, I wanted to see what the data suggests.


We have almost no sample size for Daniel as he's played 2 games. We have a large sample size for Alex though. QB rating is extremely correlated to wins in the NFL. The average rating is 84: a team can expect an additional win (or loss) moving approximately 6 points from the median. Alex had a 93 rating and Daniel had a 75 rating today. That's an implied swing of 3 full games if we assume static performance.


While there is no way to know if Daniel would perform differently over the course of a season, it's doubtful any teams (or our own coaching staff) believe he could. Else, he'd be picked up as a starter. Whether Chiefs fans see any value finishing 9-7 vs 6-10 if you miss the playoffs regardless is another discussion.
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:32 AM   #271
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Well, nothing quite like judging the overall quality of a qb off of his 3 years, but considering he won a super bowl and likely will again, I'm sure he'd take that. He's got a lot of time to work on his game. History's going to prove you wrong.
The guy probably followed Smith here and his NFCW hate is still strong.
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:33 AM   #272
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If Brady or Rodgers had the kind of performance that Wilson had in that Saints playoff game, Hootie would be having a field day, and we all know it.
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:35 AM   #273
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but I guess no one remembers how good Warrick Dunn and T.J. Duckett were at running the football when Mike Vick rushed for 1000 yards one season.

Marshawn Lynch has the easiest running back job in the NFL.

and, when Lynch is not on the Hawks next year, and one of their slapdick backups Turbin or Michael take over and there is NO DROP OFF AT ALL, I'll make you a deal and promise I won't say "told you."

Oh who am I kidding. Yes I will.
Since you think RW is a coin choice between Aaron.. you honestly think he would have the same success on a GB squad? just curious
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:36 AM   #274
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Wilson in year three is what Alex wishes he was in year nine.

He may show some heavy game manager tendencies, but he can actually make big and awesome plays. Lynch won't have fun outside of that read option offense next year. Hootie has that right.
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:37 AM   #275
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the Hawks were up 16-0 at halftime

you do realize that QB's stats do correlate with what's happening in the game

for instance

if a team like the Hawks are up by 2+ scores with the defense that they have, they are not going to be throwing the ball ... you know ... ever

that does make sense to you, right?

Wilson has made every play in every game he's ever had to make as a pro. His 1 playoff loss was the best performance I've ever seen in the playoffs by a QB.

His rookie year loss to the Falcons in the playoffs in Atlanta was legendary. It was the very definition of being clutch.
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Since you think RW is a coin choice between Aaron.. you honestly think he would have the same success on a GB squad? just curious
Absolutely 100 %

Russell Wilson is a winner. He'd be elite on any team in the NFL. Green Bay, Kansas City, Seattle ... doesn't matter.

I know this because I watch him play. I prefer debating with people who actually watch the games rather than quote stat sheets.

they are the same people who try and tell me Peyton Manning was carried to his only Super Bowl because he was 3 : 7 in the postseason
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:39 AM   #277
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totally agree

right now, on sportsbook, the Hawks and Pats are the favorites at 2.5 : 1

however, RobBlake said "ain't happening with Russ" so I certainly will not be betting on the Seahawks based off of this well researched and brilliant insight

so thanks a lot man; you really helped me out
weren't the pats favored at 18-0 vs giants as you like to put it? idgaf about your sportsbook, but thanks for those "empircal" findings
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If Brady or Rodgers had the kind of performance that Wilson had in that Saints playoff game, Hootie would be having a field day, and we all know it.
Brady did have a very similar stat line in a plyoff game. The same things that have been said about wilson were said about brady early on.
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if a team like the Hawks are up by 2+ scores with the defense that they have, they are not going to be throwing the ball ... you know ... ever
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The same things that have been said about wilson were said about brady.
By Hootie, even. But when Wilson does the same shit, he's suddenly the best QB and better than Rodgers.

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Wilson has made every play in every game he's ever had to make as a pro. His 1 playoff loss was the best performance I've ever seen in the playoffs by a QB.

His rookie year loss to the Falcons in the playoffs in Atlanta was legendary. It was the very definition of being clutch.

Alex game vs Indy was Identical to Wilson's vs Atlanta except he had 4 TD to Wilson's 2...and 0 picks to Wilson's 1. They both lost at the end. If Wilson's was the best ever then Alex was right there
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brilliant

a QB leads his team on a perfect TD drive, down 5, and leaves 0:28 on the board and his defense ****s it up so therefore the QB cannot have been clutch since his team lost

just awesome insight
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By Hootie, even. But when Wilson does the same shit, he's suddenly the best QB and better than Rodgers.

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the Hawks were up 16-0 at halftime

you do realize that QB's stats do correlate with what's happening in the game

for instance

if a team like the Hawks are up by 2+ scores with the defense that they have, they are not going to be throwing the ball ... you know ... ever

that does make sense to you, right?

Wilson has made every play in every game he's ever had to make as a pro. His 1 playoff loss was the best performance I've ever seen in the playoffs by a QB.

His rookie year loss to the Falcons in the playoffs in Atlanta was legendary. It was the very definition of being clutch.
I guarantee i've watched as much Russell Wilson as you, and you are batshit insane.

Next your gonna say the touchdowninterception was a result of Wilsons jedi elite clutch skills too huh?

nah, his counter part in Kap had a more impressive post season sans the result in the Superbowl of that same season RW was legendary.
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Alex game vs Indy was Identical to Wilson's vs Atlanta except he had 4 TD to Wilson's 2...and 0 picks to Wilson's 1. They both lost at the end. If Wilson's was the best ever then Alex was right there
Alex led the Chiefs to 3 4th quarter TD drives in a game they were trailing by 20 at half and took the lead with 0:28 remaining?

I remember it differently, since I was at the game.

Even though I do think Alex played a really, really good game. That game wasn't on him in any way, shape or form. I blame the defense and Sutton for that one. And Reid.
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