Two 1st round picks for Russell Wilson in '16 and '17 or '17 and '18

[Discuss Thrower]

Clayton on show seems to hint that SEA would be open to non-exclusive Tag for RW in 2016- seems surprising but SEA will study all avenues

— DAVIS HSU (@DavisHsuSeattle) June 20, 2015

Do you sign the offer sheet if the Seahawks non-exclusively tag Russell Wilson?

Pole cumming.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Wilson had 200 less attempts.

This is a Jamaal Charles vs Adrian Peterson/Marshawn Lynch/Lesean McCoy argument here. Jamaal almost always has less yards than those guys, sometimes by a wide margin. He's probably the best out of the group, though (aside from AP).

Other than AP, LeSean and Jamaal have comparable totals. They all range within 1100-1500 yards per season. Luck, Wilson, and Rodgers don't have comparable totals in the least bit. Luck and Rodgers are comparable. Wilson isn't close at all.

And even if you go by yards per attempt, in 2014:

Aaron Rodgers: 8.4
Luck: 7.7
Wilson: 7.7

And it's not Rodgers, or Lucks fault they're given more responsibilities and have to carry their teams more than Wilson has to carry his. If Wilson has a game where he has 150 yards and 0 touchdowns, chances are the game will still be close and the Seahawks can still win. If Rodgers or Luck have those types of games, they likely get blown out.

[beach tribe]

3 years from now these comparisons between Wilson and Luck will be absolutely LAUGHABLE.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

3 years from now these comparisons between Wilson and Luck will be absolutely LAUGHABLE.

They kind of already are. If Luck was with the Seahawks, they'd blow teams out every single game. He'd have at least 2 superbowls right now. I mean, Wilson only needed 174 yards per game in his SB winning post season. How many QBs in the league would be unable to do that?

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by -King-

Other than AP, LeSean and Jamaal have comparable totals. They all range within 1100-1500 yards per season. Luck, Wilson, and Rodgers don't have comparable totals in the least bit. Luck and Rodgers are comparable. Wilson isn't close at all.



And even if you go by yards per attempt, in 2014:



Aaron Rodgers: 8.4

Luck: 7.7

Wilson: 7.7



And it's not Rodgers, or Lucks fault they're given more responsibilities and have to carry their teams more than Wilson has to carry his. If Wilson has a game where he has 150 yards and 0 touchdowns, chances are the game will still be close and the Seahawks can still win. If Rodgers or Luck have those types of games, they likely get blown out.

I'm not sure why you'd include the YPA stat there. Does that not prove my point? (Besides the fact that A Rod is a ****ing beast- although, if I'm not mistaken, Tony Romo led the league in YPA last season).

Wilson and Luck have comparable YPA stats. While Luck consistently throws for 4,500+ yards he also consistently throws 600+ passes whereas Wilson is lucky to attempt 450. You can't blame Luck and Rodgers for being asked to throw more passes just like you can't fault Wilson for not being asked to throw more passes.

He's more than capable.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

3 years from now these comparisons between Wilson and Luck will be absolutely LAUGHABLE.

yeah, and when they're not, I'm sure we'll hear back from you

I feel like the Wilson bashers on here look at a box score rather than watch the games. That's the only explanation.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by -King-

They kind of already are. If Luck was with the Seahawks, they'd blow teams out every single game. He'd have at least 2 superbowls right now. I mean, Wilson only needed 174 yards per game in his SB winning post season. How many QBs in the league would be unable to do that?

That's ridiculous.

Yeah, you're right. The Hawks would be 57-0 the past 3 years with Luck. 3 Super Bowls. No doubt.





Good God man.

[Hootie]

more than likely, Luck would get the same excuses he gets in Indy and everyone would say, "well come on! Look at who he's throwing to!"

I'd argue the Hawks would have ZERO Super Bowls with Andrew Luck. Considering the 49ers were better than the Hawks two years ago and it took a HELL OF A SMART play by Wilson to beat them in the NFCCG. I don't think Luck wins that game.

A ridiculous hypothetical, none the less.

If that's the case, Peyton Manning would have won 12 Super Bowls with Belichick. For sure! I know it! Yep!

[ViperVisor]

SEA offense last season was nearly the same ability at scoring points as 2012 49ers.

Basically what I expect KC to do this year. Just inside top 10 in points per drive.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

yeah, and when they're not, I'm sure we'll hear back from you

I feel like the Wilson bashers on here look at a box score rather than watch the games. That's the only explanation.

Comparing the Colts and Seahawks, which team would you rather play for?

I like Wilson, but if he's as good as you preach, Seattle should have won 3 SBs by now.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

you have got to explain to me why you keep using 3's instead of e's

it's driving me insane

I'm on my phone and the 3 is right above the e and I'm lazy to fix it.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm on my phone and the 3 is right above the e and I'm lazy to fix it.

that's fair

I've seen it like 3 times and didn't know if it was some sort of thing you do lol

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

that's fair

I've seen it like 3 times and didn't know if it was some sort of thing you do lol

Sometimes I don't catch it, sometimes I do but I let it ride because it pisses SNR off so I do it anyway

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

That's ridiculous.

Yeah, you're right. The Hawks would be 57-0 the past 3 years with Luck. 3 Super Bowls. No doubt.





Good God man.

How exactly would they not be better? Is Luck a better QB than Wilson? Yes. Does the Seahawks defense make it EXTREMELY easy for a QB to win there? Yes.

Seahawks allow 18 points per game in the playoffs past three years. They allowed 13 points per game during the superbowl run. Yeah, I can't believe Wilson is able to overcome that.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Comparing the Colts and Seahawks, which team would you rather play for?

I like Wilson, but if he's as good as you preach, Seattle should have won 3 SBs by now.

There's a huge disparity between the Colts running game and defense to the Hawks.

Luck on the 2013 Hawks team would have won the SB.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I'm not sure why you'd include the YPA stat there. Does that not prove my point? (Besides the fact that A Rod is a ****ing beast- although, if I'm not mistaken, Tony Romo led the league in YPA last season).

Wilson and Luck have comparable YPA stats. While Luck consistently throws for 4,500+ yards he also consistently throws 600+ passes whereas Wilson is lucky to attempt 450. You can't blame Luck and Rodgers for being asked to throw more passes just like you can't fault Wilson for not being asked to throw more passes.

He's more than capable.

Alex Smith also had a season where he had 8 yards per attempt. I guess he's in the same tier too.

Just cause the averages are close doesn't mean that a player would be able to sustain it if his workload increased. I don't think Wilson would be as good as Luck if his workload and responsibilities were to suddenly increase.