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Old 04-30-2018, 02:36 AM   #1
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I'm not saying he's bad but I watched Miss St highlights and he looked awful in that game.

Hopefully he just had a flat day.
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Old 04-30-2018, 02:52 AM   #2
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Old 04-30-2018, 12:08 PM   #3
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You can really tell that this kid is not fast coming around the edge. His 3 cone time of 7.6 proves what you see on the field.

He may be similar in size and straight line speed, but Tamba has a 7.2 3 cone and you can clearly see that in his tape.

Looks like they are primarily using this kid inside on rush downs. That’s good bc I think that needs to be his primary role.
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Old 04-30-2018, 01:42 PM   #4
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You can really tell that this kid is not fast coming around the edge. His 3 cone time of 7.6 proves what you see on the field.

He may be similar in size and straight line speed, but Tamba has a 7.2 3 cone and you can clearly see that in his tape.

Looks like they are primarily using this kid inside on rush downs. That’s good bc I think that needs to be his primary role.
While you’re probably right, I will add that watching Speaks do his 3 cone, his shorts were falling off and he was trying to pull them up while running. I’d imagine that slowed him down a bit.
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Old 04-30-2018, 01:50 PM   #5
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While you’re probably right, I will add that watching Speaks do his 3 cone, his shorts were falling off and he was trying to pull them up while running. I’d imagine that slowed him down a bit.

So you're saying Chris Jones is a good comp
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Old 04-30-2018, 02:07 PM   #6
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While you’re probably right, I will add that watching Speaks do his 3 cone, his shorts were falling off and he was trying to pull them up while running. I’d imagine that slowed him down a bit.
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Old 04-30-2018, 02:11 PM   #7
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While you’re probably right, I will add that watching Speaks do his 3 cone, his shorts were falling off and he was trying to pull them up while running. I’d imagine that slowed him down a bit.
I saw that, but he still looks slow around the edge. I get that Veach wants more power guys like Tamba/Houston compared to Ford, but Houston/Tamba were fast and slippery around the corner.

I didn’t see that from Speaks. I feel like they need to just line him up over G’s where he can succeed.
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I saw that, but he still looks slow around the edge. I get that Veach wants more power guys like Tamba/Houston compared to Ford, but Houston/Tamba were fast and slippery around the corner.

I didn’t see that from Speaks. I feel like they need to just line him up over G’s where he can succeed.
I agree.

I was trying to think of a closer comparison for an EDGE and the guy that came to mind was Pernell McPhee. McPhee could do both like they’re going to ask Speaks to do.
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Old 04-30-2018, 02:37 PM   #9
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The goal was obviously to get bigger and stronger in the box, which is what they did. Whether they can generate a pass rush and/or defend the pass any better will be the question.
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The goal was obviously to get bigger and stronger in the box, which is what they did
also drop the dead weight as has been pointed out in this thread.
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Old 04-30-2018, 02:25 PM   #11
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I could definitely see Speaks shedding 10-15 lbs here in the league.
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I could definitely see Speaks shedding 10-15 lbs here in the league.
That has to be the plan if they’re serious about him at OLB
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