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Old 09-17-2023, 08:46 PM  
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I'm not going to overreact as it's only been 2 games but boy has their play has been meh at best. I'm not too worried about Taylor as I am Smith who looked like a declining player in Tampa. Everyone says it was because he was injured and maybe he still is but this has to get better if we're going to repeat as champs
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Old 09-26-2023, 11:05 AM   #271
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Clark Hunt is the chairman of the NFL Finance Committee.

You think sending a memo is the extent of the influence he wields? Andy Reid is among the most well respected coaches in football, not just from players, but fans, media and other coaches. You think he can't get in someone's ear and push the issue?

Do I think we'll be privy to all those conversations? No. Do I damn sure hope they're happening and with some level of righteous anger? You're damn right I do.

But I'm certainly not gonna get to where you are - "Eh, i guess we just need to be okay playing by a different set of rules than everyone else..."
The Chiefs clearly haven't been okay with it. Andy and Patrick never call out the refs and they both did just that to the media days ago. Andy's usually respectful and stays away from that but yet he didn't.

If he's saying that to the media where everyone can hear it then it's obvious that he has spoken to officials about it pre-game and will likely continue to do so.
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Old 09-26-2023, 11:10 AM   #272
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That was a pathetic analogy Virus. Good god I hope you are trolling because that's the dumbest thing I have read all day
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Old 09-26-2023, 11:11 AM   #273
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The Chiefs clearly haven't been okay with it. Andy and Patrick never call out the refs and they both did just that to the media days ago. Andy's usually respectful and stays away from that but yet he didn't.

If he's saying that to the media where everyone can hear it then it's obvious that he has spoken to officials about it pre-game and will likely continue to do so.
Well maybe you should tell Andy this:

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Andy just needs to work with him on fixing this. They're clearly not gonna stop so you might as well take the bullets out of their chamber
If Reid's not content with us playing by different rules than the rest of the league, why are you?
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Old 09-26-2023, 11:17 AM   #274
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That was a pathetic analogy Virus. Good god I hope you are trolling because that's the dumbest thing I have read all day
He's not trolling, and this is somebody that claims they're "intelligent".
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Old 09-26-2023, 11:26 AM   #275
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Well maybe you should tell Andy this:



If Reid's not content with us playing by different rules than the rest of the league, why are you?
You don't think Andy hasn't been pissed about this for 2 weeks now? We all know that they're doing something. At this point it's clear Andy is talking with every officiating crew before the games to rightfully stand on ceremony about this bullshit, but at this point I don't see it stopping.

You should be happy. This is a badge of honor for us. You said yourself. "We wear the black hat now fellas". This comes with the territory.

I saw them do this type of bullshit after bullshit thing to the Patriots and haven't seen it since. It's an honor gentlemen. We're at the top of the mountain and they want us down.
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Old 09-26-2023, 11:33 AM   #276
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You don't think Andy hasn't been pissed about this for 2 weeks now? We all know that they're doing something. At this point it's clear Andy is talking with every officiating crew before the games to rightfully stand on ceremony about this bullshit, but at this point I don't see it stopping.

You should be happy. This is a badge of honor for us. You said yourself. "We wear the black hat now fellas". This comes with the territory.

I saw them do this type of bullshit after bullshit thing to the Patriots and haven't seen it since. It's an honor gentlemen. We're at the top of the mountain and they want us down.
When DJ was talking about wearing the black hat, he didn't mean we should take the NFL's cock in our ass with no complaints.
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Old 09-26-2023, 11:35 AM   #277
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You don't think Andy hasn't been pissed about this for 2 weeks now? We all know that they're doing something. At this point it's clear Andy is talking with every officiating crew before the games to rightfully stand on ceremony about this bullshit, but at this point I don't see it stopping.

You should be happy. This is a badge of honor for us. You said yourself. "We wear the black hat now fellas". This comes with the territory.

I saw them do this type of bullshit after bullshit thing to the Patriots and haven't seen it since. It's an honor gentlemen. We're at the top of the mountain and they want us down.
Dude...what?

We can be the bad guy and still not get completely ****ed over at every turn.
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Old 09-26-2023, 11:40 AM   #278
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Dude...what?

We can be the bad guy and still not get completely ****ed over at every turn.
I've only seen this happen twice and the first time was the Patriots. As far as I can tell, it's clear that the NFL doesn't like dynasties bc it makes a lot of their fans feel apathetic.

Some of you guys need to go back and see what the Patriots had to deal with bc it wasn't just cheating shit. They dealt with something just like this when they started their dynasty.
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So's 80% of the league on any given snap.

I'm not going to 'fix it' until the rest of the league is held to the same standard as we are.

They very VERY clearly aren't.
This is where we differ.

I think it'd be prudent to fix the issue and then continue to fight against the league.

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I don't disagree and I am sure he is going to continue to live on that edge. But as others have pointed out it is happening league wide every game, almost every snap and only Taylor is getting flagged for it.

We just want some consistency.
I want consistency as well. I have noted that illegal formation is not called uniformly across the league.

I'm just saying that we have two options:

1) bitch and moan while continuing to having Taylor line up illegally; therefore, allowing the officials to rat **** us at inopportune times as they've already shown they are willing to do

OR

2) make sure Taylor lines up legally to avoid costly penalties and take the fight to the league without shooting ourselves in the foot in the process

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Any DB that gets his arms extended and pulls a jersey away from a body on a play in front of an official is going to have that flag thrown.

These aren't even remotely analogous situations. This isn't situation specific (which could, theoretically, be universally applied) - it's PLAYER specific.

One. Single. Guy. In the entire league.

It's one dude getting this treatment and not to make an example for other players to follow, but just to ****ing pick on him.

And your position is just lunacy. This is an acceptance of a billion dollar organization using Kangaroo Court logic.
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That was a pathetic analogy Virus. Good god I hope you are trolling because that's the dumbest thing I have read all day
It doesn't need to be a 1:1 analog in order to serve its purpose. Note that I said it "sort of reminds me of.."

At it's core, the issue is us being upset that our player is being flagged for being in the wrong when our player is clearly in the wrong.

What's worse is that this is a pre-snap issue. These penalties are supposed to take almost all subjectivity out of the equation. If there's one penalty you shouldn't get, it's one before the ball is even ****ing snapped.

Get your shit right, THEN bitch.
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The irony when this is exactly what has ****ing happened.

God damn, how could anybody be this ****ing clueless about literally everything?
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I've only seen this happen twice and the first time was the Patriots. As far as I can tell, it's clear that the NFL doesn't like dynasties bc it makes a lot of their fans feel apathetic.

Some of you guys need to go back and see what the Patriots had to deal with bc it wasn't just cheating shit. They dealt with something just like this when they started their dynasty.
Yes the NFL hosed the Pats so hard giving them every close call.
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This is an easy fix. The NFL rule says that a body part must be at the belt of the center. It doesn't say helmet. Just tell him to hold his arm out and it's fixed. Then try to let the NFL flag it.
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Yes the NFL hosed the Pats so hard giving them every close call.
In 2004 Peyton Manning got his shit pushed in again by the Patriots. They embarrassed him and he went crying to the league about it. Guess what? Goodell changed that cornerback contact rule for his poster boy Peyton Manning.

The result? The Patriots were targeted for it all season and in the playoffs Peyton scored 38 points on their defense in large part bc of that rule change. The cherry on top was the Patriots having twice as many penalties as the Colts called on them that game.

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Yes the NFL hosed the Pats so hard giving them every close call.
Yeah, I'm not sure I remember a time that the Patriots weren't getting phantom roughing calls and the most ridiculous overturns imaginable in championship games.

It started with some ridiculous ass obscure rule that never got called until it put them in a Super Bowl and it most assuredly never got any harder for them. The Patriots got the benefit of every close call for 2 decades even AFTER they got caught blatantly cheating. Multiple times.
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This is where we differ.

I think it'd be prudent to fix the issue and then continue to fight against the league.
No. We "fix" the issue and the rest of the league continues to take advantage of a deeper set up while we don't. You're kidding yourself if you think us having Taylor line up perfectly is gonna result in the NFL saying "well now that the Chiefs are doing it right, lets make sure everyone else is."

On the highway its a given that everyone drives a bit over the posted, LEGAL, limit. Do you think that if you start driving the posted limit to a T, that everyone else is gonna follow suit. C'mon now.
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