***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Actually, yes they should, dumb people reproducing is the bane of society.

I mean I agree with you, but we live in a country that allows you to be pretty reeruned. Part of the downside of freedom if you will.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Actually, yes they should, dumb people reproducing is the bane of society.

Being dumb is every American's God-given right......or something like that

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Pants

I'm sorry, man. That was just a horrible attempt at making fun of BleedingRed for saying another asinine thing.

I know Europe is not a country, but rather a continent with many countries on it.

Image: Not Safe for Work

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Being dumb is every American's God-given right......or something like that

There is nothing that makes my day more than driving behind a dude with a huge sticker on his window that says I EAT ASS it's real nice he must announce that to the world.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Well because it would be......

I mean its not like masks keep working regardless I would bet they have to be replaced. You going to mandate people buy masks?

I mean why stop there, clearly there is a epidemic of reeruns in this country we should mandate condoms while we are at it.

You haven't shown why it isn't unsustainable.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Mecca

There is nothing that makes my day more than driving behind a dude with a huge sticker on his window that says I EAT ASS it's real nice he must announce that to the world.

While I might not agree with him, I will defend him to the death on this board for his right to tell the world.


PS Eating ass ant that bad....

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yes, it is. People are not going to wear a mask every day for the rest of their lives. Just not gonna happen.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that. And, you haven't shown why it isn't unsustainable.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yes, it is. People are not going to wear a mask every day for the rest of their lives. Just not gonna happen.

They will if you threaten them with flogging or stoning.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Well because it would be......

I mean its not like masks keep working regardless I would bet they have to be replaced. You going to mandate people buy masks?

I mean why stop there, clearly there is a epidemic of reeruns in this country we should mandate condoms while we are at it.

I am getting use to wearing a mask in public and like anything the longer you do it you will eventually get use to it. I have sleep apnea and never thought I could sleep with a mask on and now I don't think I could ever sleep without one.

Asian countries have been doing it for a very long time.

But we are going to get a vaccine then we won't have to worry about it(fingers and toes crossed) but in the mean time people should be wearing them IMVHO.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

They will if you threaten them with flogging or stoning.

[TLO]

MO DHSS Numbers Yesterday

Cases in Missouri: 9,102

Total Deaths: 396

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 103,622
As of 2:00 p.m. CT, May 6

MO DHSS Numbers Today

Cases in Missouri: 9,341

Total Deaths: 418

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 103,622 (not yet updated for 5/7/20)

As of 2:00 p.m. CT, May 7

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Officer, I was just standing here filling up my tank when those two guys walked up and threw something in my car. I'll just leave now.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I am getting use to wearing a mask in public and like anything the longer you do it you will eventually get use to it. I have sleep apnea and never thought I could sleep with a mask on and now I don't think I could ever sleep without one.

Asian countries have been doing it for a very long time.

But we are going to get a vaccine then we won't have to worry about it(fingers and toes crossed) but in the mean time people should be wearing them IMVHO.

Asian countries use masks more, but their entire population isn't always masked.

And considering we had trouble with PPE I don't know how you would keep up with needing 160 Million masks + a week etc.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Officer, I was just standing here filling up my tank when those two guys walked up and threw something in my car. I'll just leave now.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

While I might not agree with him, I will defend him to the death on this board for his right to tell the world.


PS Eating ass ant that bad....

This was about you wasn't it...