*.* 2014 General Fitness Thread *.*

[penguinz]

Welcome to 2014! Now get your ass in top physical condition!

No one else started it so here it is!

**From the 2013 Thread**

If you want to get back into lifting, or need a new lifting routine, START HERE:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...inner_Programs

If you have questions about the SS programs, look here:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ

Keep in mind that you're a novice lifter for a longer period of time than you think you are. Novice lifting can last anywhere from a few months to a year or two, depending on how hard you hit the weights and where you started.

Once you've reached the point where you don't make regular progress on the SS program, you are ready to move on to the intermediate stage, which can last you for a good number of years. Find it HERE:

http://madcow.hostzi.com/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

If you're a very advanced lifter (many, many years of CONSISTENT weight training), then there are lot of programs out there, and which one you pick is simply a matter of preference. If you're really that advanced, you should know what works for you and what doesn't by this point.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Scott Free is doing one hell of a trolling job. I think it's a Sac mult as he flamed out once he got owned enough in this thread.

Its a damn shame for me to hear an old "pal" say that... but the main point against me seems to be that high intensity cardio 3-4 days a week, for fat loss, which is Exactly what I'm aiming for... is somehow a reerun move, in no way to be considered as part of a fitness plan.

Cardio is for tards HURRRR!

Fact is, intensive cardio is considered a great workout plan by itself... then add in iron and its a great thing... I'm not trolling anything.

You requested me for "pals", don't forget that...

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by scott free

Its a damn shame for me to hear an old "pal" say that... but the main point against me seems to be that high intensity cardio 3-4 days a week, for fat loss, which is Exactly what I'm aiming for... is somehow a reerun move, in no way to be considered as part of a fitness plan.

Cardio is for tards HURRRR!

Fact is, intensive cardio is considered a great workout plan by itself... then add in iron and its a great thing... I'm not trolling anything.

You requested me for "pals", don't forget that...

Dude, intensive cardio is the way to go so sorry if I stated I wasn't for that. Props for that as that is more beneficial IMO than steady state cardio. So you've got that right.

The muscle confusion is bullshit. Choose certain types of lifts and stick with them to get stronger. Switching exercises around like you have ADD doesn't let you progress strength-wise like it should. Muscle confusion is simply not true and one must have neural adaptations to get stronger which in turn gets you more muscle.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Dude, intensive cardio is the way to go so sorry if I stated I wasn't for that. Props for that as that is more beneficial IMO than steady state cardio. So you've got that right.

The muscle confusion is bullshit. Choose certain types of lifts and stick with them to get stronger. Switching exercises around like you have ADD doesn't let you progress strength-wise like it should. Muscle confusion is simply not true and one must have neural adaptations to get stronger which in turn gets you more muscle.

progressive overload is the name of the game. No reason to swap a movement out until you cant add more iron to the bar. This is also why I cant understand how anyone could not carry a training log. The people that just go in and wing it, always do the same weight and look the same.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

This is also why I cant understand how anyone could not carry a training log. The people that just go in and wing it, always do the same weight and look the same.

Not at all. I keep a log in my head and I get stronger all the time.

I'm actually losing weight recently but making dem gainz on squats.

[luv]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

progressive overload is the name of the game. No reason to swap a movement out until you cant add more iron to the bar. This is also why I cant understand how anyone could not carry a training log. The people that just go in and wing it, always do the same weight and look the same.

Progressive overload is what my trainer talked to me about last week.

[luv]

My cardio today is rowing. 1000m, rest 90 secs, 500m. The rest kills me for the 500m...lol.

[philfree]

I got on the scale yesterday and weighed in at 215.5 so I'm down 19.5lbs from 235 since April 2nd. After I weighed I did some Joey D Golf followed by 25+ minutes of treadmill. No jumping jacks however.

Edit: I did throw in some band work doing my biceps, triceps, butterflies for chest. I did some dumbbell rows for my lats/back. 3 sets of each for all those moves.. And before it all I did 4 sets of crunches 25 per set.

[luv]

Originally Posted by philfree

I got on the scale yesterday and weighed in at 215.5 so I'm down 19.5lbs from 235 since April 2nd. After I weighed I did some Joey D Golf followed by 25+ minutes of treadmill. No jumping jacks however.

Congrats!

[tooge]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I answered this in my next post in this thread. Why are you equating running to being fit? That simply means you are good at running. We all have our own definitions.

I rarely do cardio. My resting heart rate is 55-65. I get that from lifting heavy weights. How is that possible?! Oh, because these workouts cause me to get my heart rate up, burn an insane amount of calories and increase my resting metabolic rate.

Congratulations, you have bradycardia. Bradycardia can be a sign of a very healthy heart, commonly seen in endurance athletes like marathoners and triathletes. It can also be a sign of heart disease, such as ventricular wall thickening from high blood pressure, or cardiac overexertion, ie., pumping against too much resistance. Just fyi.

While were at it, cardio is good, that is a fact. Too much cardio, say, more than 45 minutes per day, can actually be shown to be bad for the heart, as some recent research has shown.

Weight lifting is also good. It creates muscle tone and improves bone strength. It also is very effective at increasing RMR.

Doing some of both is ideal. You don't have to run 3 miles. Interval training is fantastic, and 20 minutes of cardio interval training, getting your heart rate to 77-80% of it's max is ideal. What is more important that how fast you run 3 miles, is how fast your heart can return to it's normal sinus rhythm. Cardio training is most effective at achieving this.

Simply running alot, or simply lifting alot really isn't doing the best you can for your body. If you disagree with that, then you are disagreeing with every cardiologist on the planet.

The best advice is eat a balanced diet that is low in fat, eat lots of protein, eat lots of fruits and vegetables, and eat in moderation in general. All the while, do 20-30 minutes of intense cardio 4 days a week and mix in weight training. Period.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by tooge

Congratulations, you have bradycardia. Bradycardia can be a sign of a very healthy heart, commonly seen in endurance athletes like marathoners and triathletes. It can also be a sign of heart disease, such as ventricular wall thickening from high blood pressure, or cardiac overexertion, ie., pumping against too much resistance. Just fyi.

While were at it, cardio is good, that is a fact. Too much cardio, say, more than 45 minutes per day, can actually be shown to be bad for the heart, as some recent research has shown.

Weight lifting is also good. It creates muscle tone and improves bone strength. It also is very effective at increasing RMR.

Doing some of both is ideal. You don't have to run 3 miles. Interval training is fantastic, and 20 minutes of cardio interval training, getting your heart rate to 77-80% of it's max is ideal. What is more important that how fast you run 3 miles, is how fast your heart can return to it's normal sinus rhythm. Cardio training is most effective at achieving this.

Simply running alot, or simply lifting alot really isn't doing the best you can for your body. If you disagree with that, then you are disagreeing with every cardiologist on the planet.

The best advice is eat a balanced diet that is low in fat, eat lots of protein, eat lots of fruits and vegetables, and eat in moderation in general. All the while, do 20-30 minutes of intense cardio 4 days a week and mix in weight training. Period.

What exactly are you giving the best advice regarding?

Giving general advice like that is useless. It's like saying "To be a good football player you need to do X, Y, Z". You don't know shit about the person, position, level of play, etc....

[tooge]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

We can obviously agree that "fitness" and "in shape" is in the eye of the beholder.

I know you guys are balls strong, I know you can out lift me in several if not most levels.

I also know I can do the same depending on event.

Hell this inspires me. I love a challenge. We need a CP Olympics!

They already have one. It's called the Special Olympics

[tooge]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

What exactly are you giving the best advice regarding?

Giving general advice like that is useless. It's like saying "To be a good football player you need to do X, Y, Z". You don't know shit about the person, position, level of play, etc....

It was aimed at the "what is fit" discussion. If you want to be fit, eat right, do some cardio, lift some weights. It's really that simple. If you want to compete, then that is a different story. Then, you need to train sport specific to allow you to do such, but it's still a good idea to be "fit" first and do the three things I mentioned, eat right, cardio, and resistance training.

[luv]

Oh, and 173.2. Down 83.4 lbs overall!

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by tooge

Doing some of both is ideal. You don't have to run 3 miles. Interval training is fantastic, and 20 minutes of cardio interval training, getting your heart rate to 77-80% of it's max is ideal. What is more important that how fast you run 3 miles, is how fast your heart can return to it's normal sinus rhythm. Cardio training is most effective at achieving this.

Simply running alot, or simply lifting alot really isn't doing the best you can for your body. If you disagree with that, then you are disagreeing with every cardiologist on the planet.

The best advice is eat a balanced diet that is low in fat, eat lots of protein, eat lots of fruits and vegetables, and eat in moderation in general. All the while, do 20-30 minutes of intense cardio 4 days a week and mix in weight training. Period.

I never disagreed with that, this all started when someone mentioned running as a sole measure of fitness. I do cardio, although not much because I focus more of my efforts/time on lifting because I enjoy it, not to mention too much cardio zapping your strength. You also can become pretty fit from lifting. I superset some of my late workout lifting and my heart rate stays very elevated when doing this. And it's about time for most people. If I did as much cardio as you suggested, my lifting wouldn't be near as intense. And if I continue to lift as intensely like I do now, my cardio suffers because I don't have 2 hours to devote to every workout. It's why people pick and choose their preference usually. And just because you do one or the other doesn't make you "unfit." Being fit is a pretty useless term.


And you are way off base on low fat diets. It's not 1990 anymore. Fat intake is not well correlated with cholesterol or heart disease. As it's been studied, those who focus on eating lower fat tend to take in more processed carbs/sugars which are ever increasingly shows to be worse, for whatever that's worth. The easiest thing to do is simply eat the foods you like in moderation and make sure your calories in is at or lower than calories burned.

So it's pretty simple...exercise however you want, watch your calories, have healthy BP/Lipid numbers and keep your bodyfat within a healthy range. This is the broadest definition of the term "fit" that we can have.

[Dayze]

I just use "It Works" body wrap.
I lost 14" overnight.