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ArrowheadHawk · 11:22 AM

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Mr. Plow · 03-12-2014, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Agreed. I'll even add that I think if KU wins a couple games in the tourney but not win the championship game they will be a 2 seed.

Oh definitely. We get into the Championship, we'll easily get a 2.

Ceej · 03-12-2014, 08:06 AM

So, I'm assuming what my coworker told me was a crock of shit.

Mr. Plow · 03-12-2014, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ceej

So, I'm assuming what my coworker told me was a crock of shit.

Yes. Punch him/her in the face.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 03-12-2014, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Yes. Punch him/her in the face.

They listened to KK conspiracy theories. That should explain everything.

Ceej · 03-12-2014, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Yes. Punch him/her in the face.

I don't want to go to prison for murder.

Mr. Plow · 03-12-2014, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ceej

I don't want to go to prison for murder.

I forgot your fists were classified as deadly weapons. Maybe an open handed slap?

TLO · 03-12-2014, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

They listened to KK conspiracy theories. That should explain everything.

WilliamtheIrish will be along shortly to lecture you about KK.

Ceej · 03-12-2014, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I forgot your fists were classified as deadly weapons. Maybe an open handed slap?

From a death punch to a tickle fight.

Mr. Plow · 03-12-2014, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ceej

From a death punch to a tickle fight.

TICKLE FIGHT!!!!

Fansy the Famous Bard · 03-12-2014, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke

WilliamtheIrish will be along shortly to lecture you about KK.

Billy is having fun at our expense, is all. Us 'Beakers' are sensitive when it comes to the Basketball utopia we imagine ourselves in.

Reerun_KC · 03-12-2014, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

Billy is having fun at our expense, is all. Us 'Beakers' are sensitive when it comes to the Basketball utopia we imagine ourselves in.

Billy?

WilliamTheIrish · 03-12-2014, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke

WilliamtheIrish will be along shortly to lecture you about KK.

Now Li'l smoke, don't be so sensitive. I never lectured you on KK. More like swatted your nose with a rolled up newspaper.

**Lzen** · 03-12-2014, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

They listened to KK conspiracy theories. That should explain everything.

This is the most likely scenario. I don't know exactly what KK said but they are hammering him for it on Phog.net.

WilliamTheIrish · 03-12-2014, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

This is the most likely scenario. I don't know exactly what KK said but they are hammering him for it on Phog.net.

I love those threads. Talk of a boycott of 810 again? I have to admit, I love it when Kietz leads them around by the nose.

Chiefs Pantalones · 03-12-2014, 09:15 AM

Story by Tom Keegan
Wednesday, March 12, 2014
Kansas University basketball coach Bill Self took the time Tuesday night in a telephone conversation to clarify any confusion as to when freshman center Joel Embiid suffered a stress fracture of the lower back and how he and his family were informed.

Self shared a “medically documented” time line of events. All quotes in this story are Self’s, unless otherwise attributed:

Embiid “tweaked his back” late in the West Virginia game on Feb. 8. Two days later, Embiid played at Kansas State and it “was obvious that (because of his back), he was not himself. We got an MRI on Jo immediately after the game, and the MRI did not show any stress fracture.”

Self rested Embiid for the TCU game over the center’s objections. Embiid returned to the court at Texas Tech, eight days after he had last played.

“We rested him for one week and he became symptom-free and was able to go back to being 100 percent on the basketball court,” Self said.

Embiid produced 18 points and eight rebounds in a 64-63 victory in Lubbock and then averaged 12.5 points and 10 rebounds in games against Texas and Oklahoma in Allen Fieldhouse.

“On March 1, at Oklahoma State, Jo late in the game hurt his back, and at the conclusion of the game, after being diagnosed in the locker room by our medical staff, I asked the staff how Jo was doing,” Self said. “They told me, ‘Bill, we think he has the symptoms of someone who has a stress fracture.’ That was approximately 11 p.m. We got home at 5 a.m. and at 7:30 March 2, Sunday, he was receiving an MRI. The MRI was read by an independent radiologist that contacted our staff and confirmed at approximately 12 noon that he had developed a stress fracture.”

At 1 p.m. that day, Self said he, KU’s medical staff, and Embiid met to discuss the results.

That evening, Self said, he and the medical staff visited with a spine specialist who has worked, “with NBA teams and is very familiar with this exact injury. He confirmed the diagnosis and worked with our doctors jointly on a rehab program.”

On March 3, Self said, Embiid’s family was contacted in Cameroon and was told, “that Jo had developed a stress fracture and that it was confirmed by multiple doctors, but if they wanted to in any way, shape or form get a second opinion, we would do that with any student-athlete.”

The family later informed KU that they wanted a specific spine specialist in Los Angeles to look at Embiid. The doctor fit the 7-footer into his schedule this past Monday.

“He (the LA specialist) confirmed what we already knew, that he had a stress fracture in his lower back,” Self said. “The diagnosis and treatment plan has never changed. And all physicians are in agreement that Jo should not play until his symptoms allow him to play.”

KU delayed the announcement on the stress fracture until after Embiid saw the Los Angeles spine specialist.

When will his symptoms allow him to play?

“The time frame on that is different with all individuals, but certainly Jo is working hard to put himself in a position where he can get back on the court,” Self said.

UConn center Emeka Okafor missed two Big East tournament games with a stress fracture of the lower back in 2004 and went on to lead the Huskies to the national championship that season, scoring 24 points in the title game. Okafor took a path similar to Embiid’s in that he received feedback from spine specialists in two different cities and, like Embiid, was projected to be drafted in the first few picks. Also, initial MRI tests taken after Okafor began to experience back pain did not show any stress fracture.

The second specialist Okafor saw was Dr. Andrew Dossett in Dallas, according to a March 2004 story published by ESPN.com.

Dr. Jeff Anderson, identified in the story as UConn’s director of sports medicine, told ESPN.com: “Dr. Dossett told Emeka that he finds this problem in hundreds of elite athletes and they’re still playing. What happens is the stress fracture is on a tiny little part of the bone and then the extra motion triggers muscle around it to go into pain and then a spasm and that’s when you see Emeka’s face wince. He told him it’s not a long-term problem. This is not a catastrophic finding.”

Okafor was selected second, behind Dwight Howard, in the 2004 NBA draft. He has averaged 12.3 points and 9.9 rebounds in nine NBA seasons, though he has sat out this year, his tenth, while recovering from a neck injury.

If Okafor could bounce back so quickly, might Embiid be prepared to play for KU as early as March 28, should the team advance to the Sweet 16? Self reiterated that everybody’s different.

“How quickly and if Jo comes back will be determined by his symptoms and how well he does in rehab,” Self said. “I am not optimistic that there is a definite time frame, but I’m very optimistic that it’s possible that if our team is successful enough, he could play again this year.”

Self won’t be the one to give the green light, but showed before the TCU game Embiid missed he could flash the red light against his player’s wishes.

“That decision will be 100 percent Joel’s, based on his health, based on his symptoms and based on the doctors agreeing with that (if Embiid says he is symptom-free and wants to play),” Self said. “In no way will any of our players, including Joel, be put at risk. If anything, we are taking a conservative approach, as evidenced by resting him the first time that he experienced any discomfort at all.”

01-14-2014, 08:54 AM
ArrowheadHawk Rock Chalk! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Casino cash: $7874961	** OFFICIAL 2013-2014 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread, Part 2 #10 (23-8,14-4) Players Spoiler! Returning Players 1 Naadir Tharpe Guard 5-11 170 Jr. 3 Andrew White III Guard 6-6 210 So. 4 Justin Wesley Forward 6-9 220 RS Sr. 10 Evan Manning Guard 6-3 170 So. 11 Tyler Self Guard 6-2 165 So. 20 Niko Roberts Guard 5-11 175 Sr. 21 Christian Garrett Guard 6-3 185 Jr. 31 Jamari Traylor Forward 6-8 220 RS So. 33 Landen Lucas Forward 6-10 240 RS Fr. 34 Perry Ellis Forward 6-8 225 So. Incoming Class SF * Wayne Selden C * Joel Embiid PG Conner Frankamp SF Brannen Greene PG Frank Mason SF * Andrew Wiggins Transfers Hunter Mickelson Tarik Black Non Conference Spoiler! 11/8/2013 Louisiana Monroe Lawrence, Kan. W(80-63) (1-0) 11/12/2013 Duke Chicago, Ill. W(94-83) (2-0) 11/19/2013 Iona Lawrence, Kan. W(86-66) (3-0) 11/22/2013 Towson W(88-58) (4-0) 11/28/2013 Wake Forest Paradise Island, Bahamas W(87-78) (5-0) 11/29/2013 Villanova Paradise Island, Bahamas L(59-63) (5-1) 11/30/2013 UTEP Paradise Island, Bahamas W(67-63) (6-1) 12/7/2013 Colorado Boulder, Colo. L(72-75) (6-2) 12/10/2013 Florida Gainesville, Fla. L(61-67) (6-3) 12/14/2013 New Mexico Kansas City, Mo. W(80-63)(7-3) 12/21/2013 Georgetown Lawrence, Kan. W(86-64)(8-3) 12/30/2013 Toledo Lawrence, Kan. W(93-83)(9-3) 1/5/2014 San Diego State Lawrence, Kan. L(57-61)(9-4) Conference Spoiler!** 1/8/2014 Oklahoma Norman, Okla. W(90-83)(10-4,1-0) 1/11/2014 Kansas State Lawrence, Kan. W(86-60)(11-4,2-0) 1/13/2014 Iowa State Ames, Iowa W(77-70)(12-4,3-0) 1/18/2014 Oklahoma State Lawrence, Kan. W(80-78)(13-4,4-0) 1/20/2014 Baylor Lawrence, Kan. W(78-68)(14-4,5-0) 1/25/2014 TCU Fort Worth, Texas W(91-69)(15-4,6-0) 1/29/2014 Iowa State Lawrence, Kan. W(92-81)(16-4,7-0) 2/1/2014 Texas Austin, Texas L(69-81)(16-5,7-1) 2/4/2014 Baylor Waco, Texas W(69-52)(17-5,8-1) 2/8/2014 West Virginia Lawrence, Kan. W(83-69)(18-5,9-1) 2/10/2014 Kansas State Manhattan, Kan. L(82-85)(18-6,9-2) 2/15/2014 TCU Lawrence, Kan. W(95-65)(19-6,10-2) 2/18/2014 Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas W(64-63)(20-6,11-2) 2/22/2014 Texas Lawrence, Kan. W(85-54)(21-6,12-2) 2/24/2014 Oklahoma Lawrence, Kan. W(83-75)(22-6,13-2) 3/1/2014 Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. L(65-72)(22-7,13-3) 3/5/2014 Texas Tech Lawrence, Kan. W(82-57)(23-7,14-3) 3/8/2014 West Virginia Morgantown, W. Va. L(86-92)(23-8,14-4) Big 12 Championship 3/13/2014 Texas Tech/Oklahoma State Kansas City, Mo. 2PM ESPN2 Last edited by ArrowheadHawk; 03-10-2014 at 11:22 AM..
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03-12-2014, 09:15 AM	#2910
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $7668717	Story by Tom Keegan Wednesday, March 12, 2014 Kansas University basketball coach Bill Self took the time Tuesday night in a telephone conversation to clarify any confusion as to when freshman center Joel Embiid suffered a stress fracture of the lower back and how he and his family were informed. Self shared a “medically documented” time line of events. All quotes in this story are Self’s, unless otherwise attributed: Embiid “tweaked his back” late in the West Virginia game on Feb. 8. Two days later, Embiid played at Kansas State and it “was obvious that (because of his back), he was not himself. We got an MRI on Jo immediately after the game, and the MRI did not show any stress fracture.” Self rested Embiid for the TCU game over the center’s objections. Embiid returned to the court at Texas Tech, eight days after he had last played. “We rested him for one week and he became symptom-free and was able to go back to being 100 percent on the basketball court,” Self said. Embiid produced 18 points and eight rebounds in a 64-63 victory in Lubbock and then averaged 12.5 points and 10 rebounds in games against Texas and Oklahoma in Allen Fieldhouse. “On March 1, at Oklahoma State, Jo late in the game hurt his back, and at the conclusion of the game, after being diagnosed in the locker room by our medical staff, I asked the staff how Jo was doing,” Self said. “They told me, ‘Bill, we think he has the symptoms of someone who has a stress fracture.’ That was approximately 11 p.m. We got home at 5 a.m. and at 7:30 March 2, Sunday, he was receiving an MRI. The MRI was read by an independent radiologist that contacted our staff and confirmed at approximately 12 noon that he had developed a stress fracture.” At 1 p.m. that day, Self said he, KU’s medical staff, and Embiid met to discuss the results. That evening, Self said, he and the medical staff visited with a spine specialist who has worked, “with NBA teams and is very familiar with this exact injury. He confirmed the diagnosis and worked with our doctors jointly on a rehab program.” On March 3, Self said, Embiid’s family was contacted in Cameroon and was told, “that Jo had developed a stress fracture and that it was confirmed by multiple doctors, but if they wanted to in any way, shape or form get a second opinion, we would do that with any student-athlete.” The family later informed KU that they wanted a specific spine specialist in Los Angeles to look at Embiid. The doctor fit the 7-footer into his schedule this past Monday. “He (the LA specialist) confirmed what we already knew, that he had a stress fracture in his lower back,” Self said. “The diagnosis and treatment plan has never changed. And all physicians are in agreement that Jo should not play until his symptoms allow him to play.” KU delayed the announcement on the stress fracture until after Embiid saw the Los Angeles spine specialist. When will his symptoms allow him to play? “The time frame on that is different with all individuals, but certainly Jo is working hard to put himself in a position where he can get back on the court,” Self said. UConn center Emeka Okafor missed two Big East tournament games with a stress fracture of the lower back in 2004 and went on to lead the Huskies to the national championship that season, scoring 24 points in the title game. Okafor took a path similar to Embiid’s in that he received feedback from spine specialists in two different cities and, like Embiid, was projected to be drafted in the first few picks. Also, initial MRI tests taken after Okafor began to experience back pain did not show any stress fracture. The second specialist Okafor saw was Dr. Andrew Dossett in Dallas, according to a March 2004 story published by ESPN.com. Dr. Jeff Anderson, identified in the story as UConn’s director of sports medicine, told ESPN.com: “Dr. Dossett told Emeka that he finds this problem in hundreds of elite athletes and they’re still playing. What happens is the stress fracture is on a tiny little part of the bone and then the extra motion triggers muscle around it to go into pain and then a spasm and that’s when you see Emeka’s face wince. He told him it’s not a long-term problem. This is not a catastrophic finding.” Okafor was selected second, behind Dwight Howard, in the 2004 NBA draft. He has averaged 12.3 points and 9.9 rebounds in nine NBA seasons, though he has sat out this year, his tenth, while recovering from a neck injury. If Okafor could bounce back so quickly, might Embiid be prepared to play for KU as early as March 28, should the team advance to the Sweet 16? Self reiterated that everybody’s different. “How quickly and if Jo comes back will be determined by his symptoms and how well he does in rehab,” Self said. “I am not optimistic that there is a definite time frame, but I’m very optimistic that it’s possible that if our team is successful enough, he could play again this year.” Self won’t be the one to give the green light, but showed before the TCU game Embiid missed he could flash the red light against his player’s wishes. “That decision will be 100 percent Joel’s, based on his health, based on his symptoms and based on the doctors agreeing with that (if Embiid says he is symptom-free and wants to play),” Self said. “In no way will any of our players, including Joel, be put at risk. If anything, we are taking a conservative approach, as evidenced by resting him the first time that he experienced any discomfort at all.” __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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