***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Sure are a lot of China-men in BC. And the train to Banff in summer is ass loaded with them. you can pick them out of a crowd cause they all have cameras and they travel in small herds with name tags.

I have never been out west unfortunately , I need to start seeing more of my own country, but prices are cheaper to to fly to Switzerland than Vancouver , so I tend to go out of country, but that might change now.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Das ohnly in dah mohnin.

You 'posed to be up cookin BREAKFAST

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Donger

Would you say, "I'd like to buy a house on Overland Park"?

Touche.

You got me.

I concede.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

The Chinese run the majority of nail salons. Don't they?

It runs the gamut Thai, Vietnamese, Malay, Filipino, Indian. My wife has her nails done by a Filipina and hair by a Thai lady both own their own salons.

[srvy]

Cue

Pool cue
Cueball

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Pants

Touche.

You got me.

I concede.

What!? Don't concede yet, you Cossack peasant! I'm not ready for that yet.

[Hog Rider]

So what’s the deal with all the ‘meat packin pants’?
By golly keep your flys shut boys, ther’z cooties out and about don’t cha know!

JP

[srvy]

Ever had pawpaw ice cream? It the bomb if ever in an ice cream shop that offers it give a try then thank me later. Her is a recipe for homemade if you can find the pawpaw's.


Bakers Brigade
Pawpaw Ice Cream
Yield: 6 cups
The pawpaw is the largest fruit native to North America. Its custard-like flavor is a mix of banana, ...
Ingredients
8-10 Pawpaws (skins and seeds removed to yield 2 cups of pulp)
3/4 cup sugar
2 cups heavy whipping cream
2 cups Whole milk

Pawpaw Gelato yum


How to make a Pawpaw Rum Runner

Prep Time: 5 minutes, plus the do-ahead time of making puree and infused rum
Total time: 5 minutes
Yield: 1 cocktail

Ingredients

Juice from 1/4 of a lime
1 tablespoon light brown sugar
2 tablespoon pawpaw puree
2 oz. pawpaw infused rum
Directions

Muddle the juice, light brown sugar and puree together in a cocktail shaker.
Add a cup of ice and the rum.
Shake vigorously and pour the entire contents into a rocks glass filled with ice.
Garnish with a lime slice, if desired.
Although this is a seasonal drink, the pawpaw infused rum will keep indefinitely, like any liquor. You can also freeze the pawpaw puree in two tablespoon portions so you can make this drink any time of the year.

Pawpaw daiquiri

2oz Dark Rum
3/4oz Lime juice

1/2oz Demerara simple syrup

Half of large paw paw muddled.

Shake and double strain all ingredients into coupe glass. Paw paw has this amazing tropical fruit flavor so unusual to find naturally growing in US forests. It tastes like a mix of pineapple, mango, and banana with a coconut texture in cocktails.

[Kidd Lex]

Almost zero science in the thread today. Don’t make me go to reddit for Covid news please.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by The PMII Hypothesis

Almost zero science in the thread today. Don’t make me go to reddit for Covid news please.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by The PMII Hypothesis

Almost zero science in the thread today. Don’t make me go to reddit for Covid news please.

Did you read up on the silent hypoxia I posted earlier

[Bugeater]

SCIENCE!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by The PMII Hypothesis

Almost zero science in the thread today. Don’t make me go to reddit for Covid news please.

There was a study published to NEJM with data taken from Columbia Presb. in New York.

1376 patients were enrolled in an observational trial for the use of hydroxychloroquine. The patients started on it were sicker than average, but this was adjusted for in the statistical analysis. The study found that there was no benefit from hydroxychloroquine in reducing either time to intubation or death.

Clinical guidance at our medical center has been updated to remove the suggestion that patients with Covid-19 be treated with hydroxychloroquine. In our analysis involving a large sample of consecutive patients who had been hospitalized with Covid-19, hydroxychloroquine use was not associated with a significantly higher or lower risk of intubation or death (hazard ratio, 1.04; 95% CI, 0.82 to 1.32). The study results should not be taken to rule out either benefit or harm of hydroxychloroquine treatment, given the observational design and the 95% confidence interval, but the results do not support the use of hydroxychloroquine at present, outside randomized clinical trials testing its efficacy.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410

It's the biggest single study I've seen on hydroxychloroquine use thus far, and, although not randomized, with the weight of other evidence I would argue that this makes a fairly strong case for a lack of efficacy.

What will happen next is that the people who still support using this drug will claim that it needs to be given earlier in treatment and/or with azithromycin.

[Kidd Lex]

Yeah, not looking good for Hydroxichloriquine.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Did you read up on the silent hypoxia I posted earlier

I did, thanks for posting even though I’ve been aware of that one for a while. I’m a big fan of in home oximeters, should have them just like you have a thermometer imo. Let’s keep the science flowing in the thread. Thoughts and prayers for science. 😬😁