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Old 04-03-2016, 09:48 AM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Repository, Version 1 ***



And so it begins: The Royals' second straight attempt to repeat as AL Champions, and first attempt to repeat as World Series champions.

In this thread, we'll track all non-gameday action. Roster moves, prospect news, etc.

I'll start the thread as usual, with division rivals thoughts. I still like KC to repeat as AL Central champs. Here's how I see the rest of it shaking out:

2) Indians - they have the pitching (and seem to have at least semi-Kluber-ed Cody Anderson, who added 3 mph to his fastball in the offseason). Will the offense hold up? I think this is a team that ends up looking a lot like the 2014 Royals. Francisco Lindor will solidify their IF defense over the full season, and is a help with the bat. I think this club is still a year away from really breaking through - the offense still has a lot of question marks - but I like them to nab a wildcard spot.

Key Player(s): Michael Brantley. When Brantley returns - and how he hits when he does - will be critical to the Indians' ability to be good enough on offense.

Jason Kipnis. Kipnis has been an enigmatic offensive performer for the past several years. If he finally has a good offensive campaign from start to finish, Cleveland could make real noise.

Something of interest to me: For all the acclaim the Twins' farm system gets, I look at the Indians young players, and would much rather have them. Brad Zimmer is going to be a very good all-around CF. Clint Frazier has huge power potential and should arrive soon (2017). Lindor is a young stud.

3) Tigers - Old and dependent on a few stars. If Verlander and Sanchez are healthy and effective, they will be playoff contenders. I'm sure JD Martinez will continue to hit roid-aided bombs. I'm also pretty sure Victor Martinez's days as a huge power threat are gone.

Key player: Justin Verlander. Detroit people would have you believe he figured out how to succeed without his big fastball in September of last year. If that's true, and he returns to dominant form, Detroit will likely contend again.

Something of interest to me: Will Jose Iglesias stay healthy and not try to kill teammates in the dugout? His defense makes the whole group much better.

4) Twins - They won't lead the division or be in playoff contention for as long this year, but Minnesota will avoid the cellar.

Key Player: Miguel Sano. Huge power, huge K rate. Can he continue to drive the ball and be a plus offensive player? Probably needs to cut that 35 percent K percentage to do so.

Something of interest to me: Will teams challenge Sano inside with hard stuff? Working away, away, just lets his power play up. Also - will Mike Berardino continue to be the biggest beat writer homer in MLB?

5) White Sox - still managed by a shitty manager who can't control his clubhouse (The blame for the LaRoche thing really should fall on him, not the GM). Still have a shitty overall defense and a lot of douchebags on the team. They will once again look better on paper than they actually perform.

Key player: Carlos Rodon. The White Sox need Rodon to take a big step forward to make an actual move this season. He's got the talent...

And, as always, here are the prospects.

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Old 07-13-2016, 12:45 PM   #2911
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Old 07-13-2016, 01:14 PM   #2912
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Old 07-13-2016, 02:17 PM   #2913
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Old 07-13-2016, 02:41 PM   #2914
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Old 07-13-2016, 02:43 PM   #2915
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/mlb...e89009352.html
Most of what Ned does IS wrong. Just because they've won the World Series doesn't make him any better or worse of a manager. He does manage personalities well and the players seem to respect him, so there is that, which is worth something.
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Old 07-13-2016, 02:55 PM   #2916
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Record: 45-43 (-26 run differential)
Postseason Status: Seven games back in AL Central, 4 1/2 games back of Wild Card spot
Trade Deadline Status: Likely Buyer

For a defending World Series champion, the Royals sure do seem to have a lot of holes. The rotation has been terrible (4.99 ERA) -- Edinson Volquez, Yordano Ventura, and Chris Young have combined for a 5.40 ERA in 266 2/3 innings -- and there are clear openings in right field and on the infield. Even if you're the biggest Paulo Orlando/Brett Eibner/Cheslor Cuthbert/Whit Merrifield fan in the world, adding depth behind them would be a smart move. Josh Reddick strikes me as the perfect target here because he fits Kansas City's mold as a high contact hitter (11.7 percent strikeout rate) and excellent defender. Do the Royals have the prospects to get a deal done? They might not after using many of their best chips to get Johnny Cueto and Ben Zobrist last year.
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Old 07-13-2016, 03:10 PM   #2917
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Why would the Royals give up assets for Reddick?

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Record: 45-43 (-26 run differential)
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Trade Deadline Status: Likely Buyer

For a defending World Series champion, the Royals sure do seem to have a lot of holes. The rotation has been terrible (4.99 ERA) -- Edinson Volquez, Yordano Ventura, and Chris Young have combined for a 5.40 ERA in 266 2/3 innings -- and there are clear openings in right field and on the infield. Even if you're the biggest Paulo Orlando/Brett Eibner/Cheslor Cuthbert/Whit Merrifield fan in the world, adding depth behind them would be a smart move. Josh Reddick strikes me as the perfect target here because he fits Kansas City's mold as a high contact hitter (11.7 percent strikeout rate) and excellent defender. Do the Royals have the prospects to get a deal done? They might not after using many of their best chips to get Johnny Cueto and Ben Zobrist last year.

I like Reddick a lot, and earlier in the year I was interested in him. But then he hurt his thumb, his power is down this year, and at this point I'd rather play Eibner a lot in RF to see if he could provide some power than trade a lot for a rental. Save the chips for a SP.
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Old 07-13-2016, 03:17 PM   #2918
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Agree on saving the Chips for a SP.

Orlando is turning back into a 4th OF type rather than a legit starter, but that's OK. Give Eibner a go and see if that can work out.


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Old 07-13-2016, 03:21 PM   #2919
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Agree on saving the Chips for a SP.

Orlando is turning back into a 4th OF type rather than a legit starter, but that's OK. Give Eibner a go and see if that can work out.


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Too early call up Bonafacio if Eibner struggles?

And I'm with you: If they're giving up prospects, it should be for an SP, preferably with some controllable years left, not a rental.
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Old 07-13-2016, 03:22 PM   #2920
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I don't think the RF is something we should really worry about unless a really good deal is available.

We do need to go get another pitcher, hopefully one with some control.
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Old 07-13-2016, 03:24 PM   #2921
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Agree on saving the Chips for a SP.

Orlando is turning back into a 4th OF type rather than a legit starter, but that's OK. Give Eibner a go and see if that can work out.


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Agree with you, duncan, on Eibner. The guy looks pretty comfortable playing RF; certainly better than Orlando. Plus, he seems to have a little "boom" in his bat too. Don't get me wrong, I like Orlando, but he does look like a 4th OF guy.
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Thank you for making us all wrong about you, Ned (Well, most of us. Al never seemed to waver). S/O to Zo for the excellent retrospective interview.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/mlb...e89009352.html
Just to be clear, I don't think Ned is a genius and he probably makes plenty of mistakes.

My argument has always been that I don't think a manager can do much to help a team, but he can really do a lot of damage (destroying pitching arms, or bunting/stealing excessively). Ned cleared my very low bar for acceptable managers, and I didn't trust Dayton to find another "good enough" manager.
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Old 07-13-2016, 03:50 PM   #2923
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And I'm with you: If they're giving up prospects, it should be for an SP, preferably with some controllable years left, not a rental.

Probably. At least until he trims the strikeout rate back down.

I trust their judgment on when guys are ready pretty well. If they thought he was an upgrade, he'd be here.


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Old 07-13-2016, 03:59 PM   #2924
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I don't think the RF is something we should really worry about unless a really good deal is available.

We do need to go get another pitcher, hopefully one with some control.
The only position I'm interested in making a trade for is pitching.

I'd rather a top of the rotation arm and a crafty #3 who could take advantage of the K and our defense than seeking a bat in a trade.

Of course, the trade details dictate a lot of this.
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Old 07-13-2016, 04:17 PM   #2925
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Let Eibner start in RF replace him late for defense if you must. I'm hoping they don't hsve to trade bono or Dozier...I think they can help next season
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