***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

On to some positive news, Disney Shanghai announced their re-opening and soldout within minutes. I think this is more proof that the economy will restart much more quickly than the naysayers are expecting.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...pening-1293899

Shanghai Disneyland Tickets Sell Out Instantly for First Days After Reopening

The Walt Disney Co.'s flagship theme park in China is preparing to reopen on Monday after a three-month closure because of the novel coronavirus pandemic, and so far, audience demand appears robust.
Tickets for the first days of the Walt Disney Co.'s Shanghai Disneyland re-opening sold out almost instantly on Friday as the theme park gets ready to next week end a three-month shutdown in response to the novel coronavirus pandemic.

The Shanghai Disney Resort is scheduled to have its grand reopening on Monday. The Chinese government has asked Disney to cap attendance at 30 percent of capacity, or approximately 24,000 people, to help staff and customers adjust to new health and safety measures like social distancing, required mask wearing, more frequent cleaning and temperature checks.

That's good news and judging by the beaches we have seen and what not, yes I think overall you're going to see people less hesitant to get out than we might think. Of course there will be areas I am sure that are more hesitant for certain things.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

oh they count and it's a terrible thing.

but they made a choice, right?

who is choosing to get the virus?

More specifically who is choosing to vastly increase their risk of developing complications and requiring hospitalization from COVID-19?

The obese, diabetics and people with hypertension.

All people making irresponsible lifestyle decisions.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

On to some positive news, Disney Shanghai announced their re-opening and soldout within minutes. I think this is more proof that the economy will restart much more quickly than the naysayers are expecting.

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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...pening-1293899

Shanghai Disneyland Tickets Sell Out Instantly for First Days After Reopening

The Walt Disney Co.'s flagship theme park in China is preparing to reopen on Monday after a three-month closure because of the novel coronavirus pandemic, and so far, audience demand appears robust. Tickets for the first days of the Walt Disney Co.'s Shanghai Disneyland re-opening sold out almost instantly on Friday as the theme park gets ready to next week end a three-month shutdown in response to the novel coronavirus pandemic.

The Shanghai Disney Resort is scheduled to have its grand reopening on Monday. The Chinese government has asked Disney to cap attendance at 30 percent of capacity, or approximately 24,000 people, to help staff and customers adjust to new health and safety measures like social distancing, required mask wearing, more frequent cleaning and temperature checks.

Big companies will be fine, its more the SMB side of things that a hurting

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Really starting to look like it is burning out.

Would that mean to continue on the same track or completely do a 180?

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Big companies will be fine, its more the SMB side of things that a hurting

Feature, not a bug.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Positivity rates declining in many states as covid19 testing expands nationally. pic.twitter.com/Ztj6OUTlSm

— Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD) May 8, 2020

Some people will view that and think it's showing a decline in cases.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Would that mean to continue on the same track or completely do a 180?

Well considering HALF the country is opening back up while the other HALF of the country wants to lock down some more...

Uh both?

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Donger

Some people will view that and think it's showing a decline in cases.

Other people like you will see it and try to /agenda it to fit your views.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Other people like you will see it and try to /agenda it to fit your views.

I see that you were one of them. That's shocking.

[Bugeater]

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Other people like you will see it and try to /agenda it to fit your views.

You literally just did that. You posted that this is an indicator that it is tapering out, which is in no way supported by that graphic.

[Donger]

I'll post this again, for those who actually want to see where each state stands:

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020...ses/index.html

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Third Eye

You literally just did that. You posted that this is an indicator that it is tapering out, which is in no way supported by that graphic.

Bleeding Red isn't fairing so well outside of his DC safe space.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

And people who are worried about the corona virus make a CHOICE to leave their house.

And people who choose to get fat and jack up their blood sugar and blood pressure are putting themselves in the high risk category.

That’s a choice.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Well considering HALF the country is opening back up while the other HALF of the country wants to lock down some more...

Uh both?

If viral load is a concern and we have managed to reduce initial viral load (social distancing/masks) thus reducing severity of symptoms/hopitalizations/deaths while also allowing some spread to help with herd immunity at a reduced risk , would opening up too early potentially change some these aspects in a negative way?

I think it should be assessed differently depending by region.