***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

The fact I don't know what the **** either of you are talking about is lost on me

And you're a ****ing crybaby to boot.

Why am I not surprised that you're as ****ing stupid and childish as I suspected?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Monticore

A lot of things we need can kill us I am looking at you Sun and you can overdose on water.

Not only overdose, but die from desalinization of your blood.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Advanced age is a contributing risk factor for obesity, diabetes, and hypertension, but lifestyle is still the primary cause of these conditions.

Otherwise wouldn’t every older person automatically get those conditions?

No, there are plenty of healthy older people who are not obese, not diabetic and do not have hypertension because they make good lifestyle decisions and take care of their health.

Lol is this the conclusion you have come to? That if some medical ailment isn't caused by one's lifestyle, then everyone is going to experience that ailment? So I don't smoke and I know an older person that never smoked, but they have lung cancer, so I and everyone else that hasn't smoked will now get lung cancer as we age? What about the non smokers that are elderly and don't have lung cancer? Is it just dormant or undiagnosed? What about dementia? Age is probably the number one risk factor for dementia, but I know plenty of old people that don't have it. What lifestyle choices have caused these people with dementia to get it?

People have underlying conditions all the time that are not caused by any type of lifestyle choice you ****ing moron. Hopefully your lifestyle choices leads you in front of an oncoming train.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Not only overdose, but die from desalinization of your blood.

****ing water.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Monticore

A lot of things we need can kill us I am looking at you Sun and you can overdose on water.

Tell me about I have had skin cancer from being dumb when i was younger and being in the sun alot.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's not really about a healthy lifestyle or not with this guy--it's about justifying his selfishness by painting everyone who isn't a picture of health as deficient.

Seems like it. Everybody has or will get something especially when you get up in age. That is just life.

[BleedingRed]

Oh today might be a good day

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

What do you consider a healthy lifestyle? When you are get older you don't feel like doing a whole lot. Most people in assisted living facilities like the one my dad stayed in their entire exercise was going from the recliner or bed to the dining room table and back. Then go to sleep while watching TV.

I will say this, there is one older\elderly person that lead a healthy lifestyle and that was my mom. She was a small lady, maybe weighed 110 lbs and she walked 2-3 miles a day and ate great. But she ended up with Parkinson's and died at 73 so she wasn't entirely "healthy"

Yeah that’s kind of the rub. You never quite know. My paternal grampa lived until he was 94 and was mentally sharp as a tack until the end. He could move around fine(for a 94 year old)but he hadn’t done shit for exercise for decades, ate Kit Kat and Hershey’s bars all day, drank Vodka all day, and had a belly that made Santa jealous. But was fine until 94! WTF? That’s why I try to balance and be relatively healthy-ish without becoming one of those people that only eats Kale and spends 5 hours per day working out. It’s just not worth it to me.

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

Yeah that’s kind of the rub. You never quite know. My paternal grampa lived until he was 94 and was mentally sharp as a tack until the end. He could move around fine(for a 94 year old)but he hadn’t done shit for exercise for decades, ate Kit Kat and Hershey’s bars all day, drank Vodka all day, and had a belly that made Santa jealous. But was fine until 94! WTF? That’s why I try to balance and be relatively healthy-ish without becoming one of those people that only eats Kale and spends 5 hours per day working out. It’s just not worth it to me.

No doubt lifestyle plays a big factor, but genetics trumps it considerably.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by kgrund

No doubt lifestyle plays a big factor, but genetics trumps it considerably.

Clearly... Have you seen Patrick Mahomes. He rolled Snake Eyes on his genetics....

[eDave]

I don't even know what this thread is anymore.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by eDave

I don't even know what this thread is anymore.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

Yeah that’s kind of the rub. You never quite know. My paternal grampa lived until he was 94 and was mentally sharp as a tack until the end. He could move around fine(for a 94 year old)but he hadn’t done shit for exercise for decades, ate Kit Kat and Hershey’s bars all day, drank Vodka all day, and had a belly that made Santa jealous. But was fine until 94! WTF? That’s why I try to balance and be relatively healthy-ish without becoming one of those people that only eats Kale and spends 5 hours per day working out. It’s just not worth it to me.

My wife’s grandma was 102 and she never turned down dessert ,and always brought some home , used her walker to do groceries for the 70 year olds in her nursing home , survived 2 cancers , bleeding ulcer surgery at 97 , genetics/ luck. Her mom was over 100 as well

We have 103 year old who bought a new car 3 gears ago, was golfing till 100, genetics

I think stress is a big issue , these two old timers never seemed to worry about anything .

[TLO]

Originally Posted by eDave

I don't even know what this thread is anymore.

See post 29369

[Donger]

Local authorities in Germany on Friday said they would reimpose some lockdown measures after seeing a cluster of new coronavirus infections, just days after Chancellor Angela Merkel announced a gradual reopening of the country.

In Germany's most populous state of North Rhine-Westphalia, the regional government said there had been a spike in cases at a slaughterhouse in the district of Coesfeld, where over 150 of the 1,200 employees tested positive for the virus.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Monticore

My wife’s grandma was 102 and she never turned down dessert ,and always brought some home , used her walker to do groceries for the 70 year olds in her nursing home , survived 2 cancers , bleeding ulcer surgery at 97 , genetics/ luck. Her mom was over 100 as well

We have 103 year old who bought a new car 3 gears ago, was golfing till 100, genetics

I think stress is a big issue , these two old timers never seemed to worry about anything .

I was at my doctor’s office three years ago in the waiting room. I spoke with a lady that had driven from Stevenson’s Ranch, which is about a 30-45 minute drive to the doctor’s office in Burbank. She talked about the bad traffic that morning and some other small talk. She was wearing jeans and T-Shirt and I took her for anywhere from 68 to maybe 72ish.

When I go back to meet with the doc, he said “I saw you taking to Jenny. Guess how old she is?”, to which I replied “72”.

The doc looked at me and laughed then said “101”. I nearly fell of the table.

Genetics, man, genetics.