***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't know if the difference is terribly meaningful given that there was no statistical significance between blood type and odds of intubation or death.

If there's no morbidity or mortality benefit it's more of a factoid than something of clinical significance.

7% to 67% (statistical variance) less chance to become infected is significant for O positive verses blood type A. I believe they are studying Blood type A and the link to blood clots and Covid as well. Have they said there is no link to morbidity? I’ll research that next and look as well, but would love to read what you’ve seen.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by The PMII Hypothesis

https://www.livescience.com/why-covi...me-people.html

Article on risk factors. T2D is looking to be a big one. No surprise, blood sugar is key to so many chronic diseases.

People w/ T2DM are much more likely to have multiple comorbidities. That's why they need routine checkups for their kidneys, cardiovascular system, eyes, and for neuropathy.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

You don't really need hope, if you have logic.

If things haven’t gotten any better months from now, that’s not logical.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Ne he was talking about the country as a whole not just sports.

Well he is absolutely correct but I also realize it will be extremely hard to do but doesn't mean he isn't correct.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

If things haven’t gotten any better months from now, that’s not logical.

Sure it is. This thing is spread by humans. Therefore, reducing the proximity to other humans will reduce the number of cases.

And, therefore, if we hadn't take the mitigation efforts we have, it would have been worse, as you agreed.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

Sure it is. This thing is spread by humans. Therefore, reducing the proximity to other humans will reduce the number of cases.

And, therefore, if we hadn't take the mitigation efforts we have, it would have been worse, as you agreed.

If it’s working, is it not supposed to get better?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by staylor26

If things haven’t gotten any better months from now, that’s not logical.

we will never know now that they are opening back up...


how do you expect things to get better when people are running around spreading it?

[O.city]

If you get an immediate spike after opening, it wasn't because of the opening. You're gonna have to wait and see 2/3 weeks out whats going on. So far Georgia hasn't had a spike to my knowledge. Florida hasn't either. So fingers crossed.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by staylor26

If it’s working, is it not supposed to get better?

not when people didnt give it enough time and wait until the numbers were actually going down...

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by staylor26

If it’s working, are things not supposed to get better?

It's better in the sense that had we done nothing the numbers would probably be 10 times worse than they are considering shit like this..

And there it is. 72 Wisconsinites have tested positive for coronavirus after attending a "large gathering," which *just so happened* to be around the same time as the April 24th rally at the Wisconsin state Capitol.

Cause, meet effect.https://t.co/thyay3sMNo

— Brian Tyler Cohen (@briantylercohen) May 9, 2020

The problems we have are impatience and the fact that there is basically no ending, no credits just a TBD, and frankly a good amount of people don't have the stomach for it.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

we will never know now that they are opening back up...


how do you expect things to get better when people are running around spreading it?

Is there currently evidence that’s the case here? Seriously asking.

By that I mean slowly opening up in certain areas ****ing everything up.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

we will never know now that they are opening back up...


how do you expect things to get better when people are running around spreading it?

And that's the other problem because we didn't really do a full on lockdown just kind of a half ass lockdown, there were still idiots running around spreading it.

Now there will just be more of those people out and about with others out.

[O.city]

One positive and a good way IMO, to look at it now is that it's taking alot more tests to find a positive. So we're ramping testing up and finding more of the infections. If we can keep reducing that below 5%, we'll be well on our way out of this hopefully.

[Kidd Lex]

This is an excellent YT series on Covid:

This one I marked to start at the blood type discussion.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JOlVkES_kC8&t=840s

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

not when people didnt give it enough time and wait until the numbers were actually going down...

Seems like both Florida and Georgia are doing fine.

So what gives?